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    Posted: 29-Oct-2007 at 17:37
Dear mohawk, your post is moved to the more related thread.
 
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Originally posted by erkut

And dont forget Jewish Turks; Karaims. Beside there are still pagan/shaman turks to. 
 
And there are Buddhist Turks also.
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And dont forget Jewish Turks; Karaims. Beside there are still pagan/shaman turks to. 
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Originally posted by Anton

Originally posted by Sarmat12

 
Right, but there was also a very small Christian minority.
 
Where and when? Do you mean after fall of Kazan from Russians?
 
According to Kriashens' website they existed even before Mongol invasion
 
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Originally posted by Sarmat12

 
Right, but there was also a very small Christian minority.
 
Where and when? Do you mean after fall of Kazan from Russians?
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Originally posted by Akolouthos

A book called Religions of the Silk Road describes the rise and fall of Christianity in Central Asia; it is actually quite fascinating. I can't seem to recall the author's name off the top of my head.

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Could be the ever mysterious figure known as Prestor John (Wang Khan,also known as Toghrul Khan) and his Kerait, Nestorian Christian, Turks.


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Originally posted by Anton

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Yeah, an ethnic group of Tatar which calls itself Kriashen, though some of them claim, that its incorrect call them Tatars and they are just the direct descendants of Christian Volga Bulgars.
 
 
Actually, Volga Bulgars were Muslims.
 
Right, but there was also a very small Christian minority.


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Originally posted by Sarmat12

 
Yeah, an ethnic group of Tatar which calls itself Kriashen, though some of them claim, that its incorrect call them Tatars and they are just the direct descendants of Christian Volga Bulgars.
 
 
Actually, Volga Bulgars were Muslims.
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A book called Religions of the Silk Road describes the rise and fall of Christianity in Central Asia; it is actually quite fascinating. I can't seem to recall the author's name off the top of my head.

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Yeah that is right, Tatars that call themselves Creshen?
 
Yeah, an ethnic group of Tatar which calls itself Kriashen, though some of them claim, that its incorrect call them Tatars and they are just the direct descendants of Christian Volga Bulgars.
 
Another Christian group of Tatar is called Nagaibak, they are Tatar-Cossacks.
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Yeah that is right, Tatars that call themselves Creshen?

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What do you mean by Turks?
 
If you mean Turks as inhabitants of the Republic of Turkey, they are 9.99% muslims.
 
If you mean Turks in a more general way like Turks as a general name for a group of ethnicities like Turkomans, Azeri, Kyrgyz etc. than there are some Turkic ethnic groups which are entirely Christian, mainly Orthodox.
 
For example: Gagauzs, live in the Balkans and are Orthodox Chrisitans, Chuvashs, live in Russia and are Orthodox Christians, Yakuts live in Russia and are Orthodox, Dolgans a small nation of Altaic Turks are also Orthodox.
 
There is also a small Turkic nation in Russia, which authentic name in English I don't know for sure, but in Russian it sounds like Shorc, they are also Orthodox.
 
There is also an ehtnic group of Kazan Tatars, which is called Kriashens who are Orthodox Christian as well. They converted from Islam after Russia had conquered Kazan in 15th century. An interesting analogy is Balkan Muslims, who are actually Serbs who converted to Islam during the Turkish rule.
 
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Chuvash Turks are Orthodox Christians. About half of Yakuts are also Orthodox Christians but there are still some Shamanist Yakuts too
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What about Saka - Chuwasestan and Yakut Turks?
They are located at Eastern Edge of Russia .
Are they also Christianized ?
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Bulldog, If you were someone who knew Turkish media well, I would be able to prove you that Hurriyet is NOT what is known as a tabloid in the UK. But you know nothing about the issue.
 
Both Murat Bardakci and Taha Akyol are credible columnists, first of all.
 
What they wrote is true, secondly.
 
And thanks for correction, Mortaza, indeed, Murat Bardakci wasn't a professional Historian.
 
 
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Guys, even hurriyet is nothing more than a trash,
 
Taha Akyol's article, who is a respected intellectual, and Murat Bardakci's article, who is a respected historian.
 
is true.
 
 I should just add, Murat Bardakci is not a historian, but he interest with history.( a little different.)
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And that is what Hurriyet is, why does it upset you?
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Ohhh, Bulldog, copy from wikipedia, then paste it to here. And then say "do you know what a tabloid is." Muhaha. You made my day, bulldog.

A tabloid is a newspaper industry term which refers to a smaller newspaper format per spread; to a weekly or semi-weekly alternative newspaper that focuses on local-interest stories and entertainment, often distributed for free (often in a smaller, tabloid-sized newspaper format); or to a newspaper that tends to emphasise sensational crime stories, gossip columns repeating scandalous innuendos about the personal lives of celebrities and sports stars, and other so-called "junk food news" (often in a smaller, tabloid-sized newspaper format).
 
 
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Man! Stop this bullsh*t!
 
What colourfull language...
 
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Hurriyet is the biggest newspaper in Turkey.
 
Biggest? you mean most read...and so what if it is...
 
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And there's no such thing as "tabloid" in Turkey.
 
Do you even know what a tabloid is? A newspaper that tends to emphasise sensational crime stories, gossip columns repeating scandalous innuendos about the personal lives of celebrities and sports stars, and other so-called "junk food news".
 
This is what Hurriyet is, a populist tabloid focusing on sensatinalising news or sticking a half naked woman on its back page in order to make more sales.
 
Its hardly a "respectable" broadsheet.
 
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Originally posted by Ertugrul Ozkok Hurriyet Newspaper
 
LOL WoW, what a source, are you suprised that he's not referring to the paper who pays his wages as one that caters for "junk food news".
 
Now if that isn't bad enough, comparing "Hurriyet" to the Financial Times is nothing more than an insult. Talk about blowing your own trumpet, he should know his paper's place.
 
Articles written in such paper's are not very intellectual.
 
 


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