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    Posted: 28-Jun-2006 at 08:01
 
I have heard somewhere that in Viking sagas it was said that Harald Hardrada had a fight with a blind kung during his trip to southern lands (Byzantium). In the same source I read that it is more likely bulgarian Peter Delyan -- leader of bulgarian revoult against the Byzantine Empire. Has anybody information about that?  Ideally it would be nice to find some extract from sagas regarding Hardrada's trip to Byzantium in original language or better the whole collection of Sagas about Hardrada.
 
Here is some information from wiki about Peter Delyan for those who might be interested:
 
 

Peter II Delyan (Bulgarian Petăr II Deljan) was the leader of the Bulgarian revolt against the Byzantine Empire and was proclaimed emperor (tsar) of Bulgaria 10401041. His original name may have been simply Deljan, in which case he assumed the name Peter II upon his accession, commemorating the sainted Emperor Peter I (Petăr I), who had died in 970. The year of his birth is uncertain, but probably not long after 1000, and before 1014; he may have died in 1041.

Life

Peter II Delyan was the son of Emperor Gabriel Radomir (Gavril Radomir) of Bulgaria by an unnamed sister of King Stephen I of Hungary.

Peter's mother was expelled while pregnant from the Bulgarian court before the accession of Gabriel Radomir, but given Delyan's subsequent career, it is likely that he had been born and remained in Bulgaria with his father (see Fine, reference below).

After the murder of Gabriel Radomir in 1015 and the conquest of Bulgaria by the Byzantine Empire in 1018, Delyan was taken captive to Constantinople and became a servant of an unidentified member of the Byzantine aristocracy. He later escaped and went to his mother's country of Hungary, from which he re-entered Bulgaria and raised a revolt against Byzantine rule, taking advantage of the discontent over the imposition of taxes in coin by the Byzantine government. Delyan was proclaimed emperor (tsar) in Belgrade under the name Peter II by being raised atop a shield by leaders of the resistance, and perhaps enjoyed some support from Hungary.

Peter II Delyan took Niљ and Skopje, first co-opting and then eliminating another potential leader in the person of one Tihomir, who had led a rebellion in the region of Durazzo. After this Peter II marched on Thessalonica, where the Byzantine Emperor Michael IV was staying. Michael fled, leaving his treasury to a certain Michael Ivac. The latter, who was probably a son of Ivac, a general under Samuel of Bulgaria, promptly turned over the bulk of the treasury to Peter outside the city. Thessalonica remained in Byzantine hands, but Macedonia, Durazzo, and parts of northern Greece were taken by Peter II's forces. This inspired further Slavic revolts against Byzantine rule in Epirus and Albania.

Peter II Delyan's successes ended, however, with the interference of his cousin Alusian. Alusian, whose father Ivan Vladislav had murdered Peter's father Gabriel Radomir in 1015, joined Peter II's ranks as an apparent deserter from the Byzantine court, where he had been disgraced. Alusian was welcomed by Peter II, who gave him an army with which to attack Thessalonica. The siege, however, was raised by the Byzantines, and the army was defeated. Alusian barely escaped and returned to Ostrovo.

One night, during dinner, Alusian took advantage of Peter II's inebriation, and cut off his nose and blinded him with a kitchen knife in 1041. Since Alusian was of the blood of Samuel, he was quickly proclaimed emperor in Peter II's place by his troops, but he conspired to defect to the Byzantines. As the Bulgarian and Byzantine troops were preparing for battle, Alusian deserted to the enemy and headed for Constantinople, where his possessions and lands were restored to him, and he was rewarded with the high courtly rank of magistros.

Meanwhile, though blind, Peter II Delyan resumed command of the Bulgarian forces, but the Byzantine Emperor Michael IV determined to take advantage of the situation and advanced against them. In an obscure battle near Ostrovo, the Byzantines defeated the Bulgarian troops and Peter II Delyan was captured and taken to Constantinople, where he was perhaps executed.

Norse sagas refer to the participation of the future Norwegian King Harald Hardrеda, who allegedly cut down Peter II in the field of battle as a member of the Varangian Guard. This tradition may be supported by a laconic reference in the so-called "Bulgarian Apocryphal Chronicle". In either case, Peter II Delyan may have perished in 1041.

 
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  • John V.A. Fine Jr., The Early Medieval Balkans, Ann Arbor, 1983.


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And here is the information about Harald:
 

Harald III of Norway

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Harald III Sigurdsson (1015 September 25, 1066), later surnamed Harald Hardrеde (Old Norse: Haraldr harрrбрi, roughly translated as "Harald stern council" or "hard ruler") was the king of Norway from 1046 until 1066. Many details of his life were chronicled in the Heimskringla. Among English-speakers, he is generally known as 'Harald Hardrada' and remembered for his invasion of England in 1066.
 

Early life

Born in 1015, Harald was the youngest of King Olaf II's three half-brothers. When Harald was 15, King Olaf was killed defending his throne from Canute the Great in 1030 at the Battle of Stiklestad. Harald took part in the battle and although wounded managed to escape before leaving Norway in exile. He was able to form a band of warriors out of men who had also been exiled as a result of Olaf's death. In 1031 Harald and his men reached the land of the Rus where they served the armies of Yaroslav I the Wise, the King of the Rus. Harald is thought to have taken part in King Yaroslav's campaign against the Poles and was appointed joint commander of defense forces.

 

Time in the Byzantine Empire

Some years after Harald and his men had entered the land of the Rus, they packed up and left for the heart of the Byzantine Empire, the city of Constantinople. At the time, the Byzantine Empire was the wealthiest empire in Medieval Europe and the Near East. Harald and his men pledged themselves to the service of the armies of the empire. Harald's forces joined the elite mercenary unit known as the Varangian Guard. It was not long until Harald had proven himself in battle and gained the respect of his fellow guardsmen. Harald became the leader of the entire force and used this power to undertake his own missions. Harald's forces won a great many victories in North Africa, Syria and Sicily. Through ingenuity, he and his men were able to besiege and defeat a number of castles. A contemporary source reports such tactics as attaching burning resin to birds, setting the castle ablaze, and feigning reluctance to fight, only to launch an attack at the most advantageous moment. Harald was able to build a large fortune in plunder from his victories.

 

Return to Norway

Using the wealth he had built during his service to the Byzantine Empire, Harald returned to Norway in 1045. Harald brought with him a number of men who served with him, and, as a result, became an immediate threat to the sitting King of Norway. Magnus I of Norway was the son of Olaf II and nephew of Harald. He had returned from exile in 1035 to reclaim his father's throne after the death of Canute the Great. Magnus I agreed to share power with his uncle Harald and the two became co-rulers. However, it was only a year later that Magnus would die. The circumstances surrounding his death were never truly explained. Speculation led to the widespread belief that Magnus was killed by Harald so that he alone would control Norway.

 

Invasion of England

Harald was killed at the Battle of Stamford Bridge, outside the city of York, England. The battle took place on 25 September 1066. Harald died fighting against the forces of King Harold Godwinson of England. He had come to England with the idea of claiming the English Throne as his own. He based this claim on a supposed agreement between Magnus and Harthacanute whereby if either died without heir, the other would inherit both England and Norway. He landed in Northern England with a force of around 15,000 men and 300 longboats (50 men in each boat), and had won a great victory on 20 September against the first English forces he met at the Battle of Fulford two miles south of York. Some speculate that Harald's defeat at the Battle of Stamford Bridge was the result of his belief that King Harold Godwinson was prepared to surrender. This was not the case, and Harald's army was destroyed at Stamford Bridge. His army was so heavily beaten that less than 25 of the 300 recorded longboats Harald used to transport his forces to England were used to carry the survivors back to Norway. Not long after his victory over King Harald, Harold Godwinson was defeated by William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings.


 

Sources

  • Sawyer, P.H. (1994).Kings and Vikings. pgs 118-20, 146-47. Barnes and Noble Books, New York.
  • Sturluson, Snorri (2005). King Harald's Saga (Part of the Heimskringla). pgs 45, 46, 47. Penguin Classics.
 

 



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  Quote Aelfgifu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jun-2006 at 10:22
Your own wikiquote sourcelist kindof said it. The main source for this is the Heimskringla by Snorri Sturluson. Aparently Snorri learned of this story from two of Haralds men, Halldor Snorrason and Ulf Ospakson. Further sources on Haralds stay in Byzantium are a scaldic praise poem of the skald Thjodolf Arnorsson, in which Harald is called 'Bulgar destroyer' and which tells about his battles there. It is partially preserved in the Heimskringla. And another source is an anonymous Greek piece called 'Advice to the Emperor', (or something like it, for I do not have the original title), which gives the Greek view on Harald.
 
I think the best way to go is to look up the Heimskringla as it is our main source on much Scandinavian history, but be aware it was written in the 13th century and is not fully reliable.
The information here comes from an article by A. Quak about the Varangian guard which appeared recently, but unfortunately it's in Dutch and as far as I know has not been translated.

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  Quote Anton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Jul-2006 at 18:00
Originally posted by Aelfgifu

 
I think the best way to go is to look up the Heimskringla as it is our main source on much Scandinavian history, but be aware it was written in the 13th century and is not fully reliable.
The information here comes from an article by A. Quak about the Varangian guard which appeared recently, but unfortunately it's in Dutch and as far as I know has not been translated.
 
 
Yep, but is there Norwegian, Danish or at least Swedish versions in the internet. I would like to read it in original form. That was my question actually...
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  Quote Aelfgifu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Jul-2006 at 04:22
The Heimskringla was written in Medieval Icelandic, I think this is the original, but I'm not fully sure, I cant read it. It might be a modern Icelandic version. But that is almost the same language. You can find them by just Googeling.

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Bloody hell, I cannot read it either :( I thought it was written in norwegian. But anyway thanks for that.

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  Quote NikeBG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Jul-2006 at 09:18
Hah, funny - I had just translated a short excerpt, concerning Harald Hardrada's actions in Bulgaria, few days ago! It doesn't give any new information, but still - here it is:


Rebel Spirits and Adventurers in Medieval Bulgaria, a monograph by Plamen Pavlov

Part II Barbarians, mercenaries, men of blood

Chapter II, Varangians, Normans and Englishmen on Bulgarian soil

 

After the Christianization of the Scandinavian lands in the beginning of the XI c. the service at the Byzantine emperors was thought to be a profitable, as well as prestigious occupation. Norman aristocrats and soldiers from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, even from the distant Iceland, were coming to Constantinople. During the XI c. the most telling traces in Byzantium and Bulgaria were left by the famous prince and adventurer Harald Hardrade the Stern (the Tall), future Norwegian king (1047-1066), younger brother of the national saint King Olaf (1016-1030). The Veringi erected a chapel in Constantinople in honour of St. Olaf. Harald himself, declared by the scholars to be last of the Viking konungs, who died later in his attempt to conquer England (only three days before the attack of William the Conqueror in 1066, the beginning of a new age in British history!), made a great impression to his contemporaries in Byzantium and Bulgaria.

The Norwegian prince came to Byzantium with a contingent of 500 soldiers, passing through Kiev, which was ruled by his future father-in-law, the Great Kniaz Yaroslav the Wise. This happened around 1036-1037 in the time of Emperor Michael IV Paphlagonian. Haralds will was not simply to gather glory, money, honours etc., but also to learn the structure of the centuries-old empire. The northern prince fought in Asia Minor against the Arabs, was later in Southern Italy under the command of the famous Byzantine commander George Maniac, who, as we already said before, probably had a Bulgarian origin. The Byzantine writer Kekavmen gives a high appraisal to Harald as a loyal soldier of the empire, which received the title spatarokandidat because of his feats of arms. The Scandinavian tradition heroizes and exaggerates the prince`s merits, as it even attributes to Empress Zoya (Zoya the Mighty in Snorri Sturloson) the will to marry him.

The most telling traces Haralad Hardrade left with his participation in the quelling of the Bulgarian insurrection, led by Petar Delyan. According to the sagas exactly he had the decisive merit for the victory over the Bulgarians and their blind king, because of which he received the byname The devastator of Bulgaria, as well as Scourge for the Bulgarians. Most probably theres also a typical hyperbolization here, as much as the contemporaries dont outline in any special way the actions of the Veringi, concerning Delyan and his insurrection. The statement, which could sometimes be found in popular literature, that Harald had some beloved Bulgarian woman called Slava or Oslava, from whose name came the name of Oslo (!), lies on no real basis. The Norman chieftain remained in Byzantium until 1043 when he entered a quarrel with Emperor Constantine IX Monomachos and had to flee to Kiev. This incident, along with some other similar ones from the same time, was one of the reasons for the last Varango-Russian sea campaign against the Byzantine capital in 1043



It would be interesting to read more about that!

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