Anatolian Greeks.Where are they now?

  My father is pontian and my mother is from smyrna :P i have an uncle who i know is karamanlis(and of course many many from smyrna,pontos etc).Anyway i search for you about karamanlides in the web and i found a lot of sites just write the word"karamanlides" in google(watch out propaganda)

As it said already greeks left turkey with exchange (1923) about 1.500.000 greeks left pontos,smyrna(a little bit earlier) ,ionia(yunan) and about 500.000 turks left macedonia and creta.1.000.000 million greeks(genocide pontians etc) were killed the same(short of)troublous years tha armenians were killed.The remain greeks Constantinopolites,imvrioi,tenedoi were forced to leave with confiscations and violence(pogrom 1955).
  Thats pitty because i believe greeks and turks could live in piece
 i am very happy that nowdays greece and turkey have a better relation,we are neighbours we must learn to live together

 I want to travel to constantinopole and smyrna pontos etc but i am afraid of bombing  I heard tha kurds bomb tourist areas
 PLEASE write us about your travel it is very interesting
     
  ps: i read in a post  that genetically turks and greeks have a strong relation.I Thought so but i read recently in newspapers and magazines that a research was done in italy that showed  that genetically  greeks and italians are closer than greeks with turks.
 i think maybe because for many many centuries beggining from 146 b.c(thousands maybe in large areas) italians and greeks were lived together.And mainly because italians and greeks had the same religion so it was easier for them to marry eachother (turks occupy greece for four centuries but culturally the two nations were different and also they had different religions).But i still believe tha greeks have genetically relation with turks especially with white turks.

ps: many many saints lived in cappadokia( i dont know turkish name of the area :(  i ve  heard about arsenios many things for example  and of course Father paisios.this area(cappadokia) means a lot for religionist greeks..

  Write us about your travel soon.


have a nice time


Edited by ageia - 27-Aug-2006 at 17:23

driving from thessaloniki to constantinopole is safe?i mean the road,drivers  in turkey is ok or do you think i have to take train,bus if i want to go to the city?

  thank you my friend fo your answer
  

And if you find any road sighn  that mention Gumuljine and Iskeje in Greece send me a wire

Originally posted by akritas And if you find any road sighn  that mention Gumuljine and Iskeje in Greece send me a wire

Do not worry, just ask the local people where Iskeje or Gumuljine is, and they will direct you.

Originally posted by ageia xexe akritas.really which cities are G.. and Is..?i dont know !! thanks bg turk by the way for your answer

bg_turk, do not underestimate the greek presence in the area. You turks are still fewer there.

Edited by xristar - 28-Aug-2006 at 13:08

It would not surprise me if many Anatolian Greeks are actually outside Greece or Turkey. Many of them would have had difficulty surviving with no established lands or property in Greece itself, it seems likely that a great many would have migrated out of Greece to the West to find a better life for their families. Just my speculation here.

And don't drink the water either. Or let them know you are a girl cause the boogy man will get you. Boo!

I had to break the sillyness that is going on here. lol. What is assumed about one country could easily be said about another.

- About those 27 injured in Marmaris and Istanbul, that is a problem. I'm glad you are aware of it and have shown your concern. The Kurdistan Freedom Falcons, an offshoot of the PKK has taken responsibility for the terrorist acts.   
    
    

Edited by Seko - 28-Aug-2006 at 21:44

what are you saying men?"they were resisted to go to greece"

i can't stand  propaganda like this one .i believe if turkey will be more democratic(less military controlled) and less nationalist everything could be more easy.
 i ve heard serious turks that ve supported tha cuprys has a turkish origin!!
  I dont say that some greeks dont hyperbolize but our schools are controlled by a democratic goverment,military has nothing to do with  it,and  are much more open minded than turkish are
 anyway in order to inform you all greek ionians were treated badly in greece cause they were emigrants,and all greeks spoke greek and turkish(except smyrna and some other cities).Nowdays there is not problem but you often hear in stadiums insults for emmigrational teams like aek and paok("f.. aek and turkey,turks go back to turkey" are some of their slags )....


ottoman empire had much more greeks (fanariotes)in high rank as you know...

ps:after 12th century byzantines has to cooperate with few turks because byzantine empire was weak,it was a tactik.byzantine empire in some difficult moments gave his daughter to their enemies as a nymph.another dimplomatic tactic...

anyway i understand what you are trying to say but i think it is no useful to open a dialogue with  you since you are so nationalist and fanatic

many many saints lived in cappadokia( i dont know turkish name of the area :(  i ve  heard about arsenios many things for example  and of course Father paisios.this area(cappadokia) means a lot for religionist greeks..

 

Yes, and many of them (including Saint George) have their origins at native Anatolian myths. Known as Saint George, he was a Cappadocian saint who slayed the dragon at Cyrenica. Though it is obvious that this myth is also a Hittite myth, the myth of "Tarhun and Illuyankas". We understand this not only by similarities and cultural continuence of Anatolian inheritance, but also by carved myths in underground cities of Cappadocia (and Luwian hieroglyphs).

 

 The name Cappadocia isn't Greek, it is derived from the southern part of Kizilirmak (Halys). "Kadpadoksa" was the name of the region in Hittite, referred as Kadpaduksa Marashantiya.