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BigL
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Topic: Steppe armies Numbers Posted: 23-Jun-2006 at 22:57 |
Sythian armies were small in size like 10,000men.
Seljuk turks had 20,000 men
The mongols invaded china with 150,000 men.
Are these numbers correct , and what numbers of men did the western steppe produce compared to the eastern steppe.
(West of the Altai mountain,
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Posted: 24-Jun-2006 at 00:07 |
Army size is probably one of the most difficult things to accurately
determine for a historian. I think all estimates of army size should be
taken with a grain of salt.
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Posted: 24-Jun-2006 at 05:06 |
I don't like Seljuks can be considered as steppe people.
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Posted: 24-Jun-2006 at 11:25 |
So how about caucasian then? IIRC the founder of Seljuks whas a soldier in Khazar empire.
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Posted: 25-Jun-2006 at 11:04 |
Seljuks were originally Steppe people just like the Legendary Oghuz.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2006 at 08:29 |
the seljuks were the first muslim turkish stable monarchie I think it's called that.
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BigL
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Posted: 27-Jun-2006 at 19:54 |
Back to topic please im interested in the numbers of steppe armies,info like numbers of tents in tribes etc
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Posted: 28-Jun-2006 at 15:14 |
Just make sure you divide anything you find by 10 to get the accurate number.
Most of them are incredibly exaggerated.
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Posted: 28-Jun-2006 at 22:20 |
Originally posted by barish
Just make sure you divide anything you find by 10 to get the accurate number.
Most of them are incredibly exaggerated. |
I think that only applies if the number listed in 100,000 men. I would say mostly around 10,000 men and sometime more. Those 100,000 men armies were notorious for eating themselves out of a successful conquest.
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Posted: 29-Jun-2006 at 02:27 |
Khazars: ~12 000 men
ancient Hungarians: ~ 20 000 men
Edited by Raider - 30-Jun-2006 at 02:48
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Posted: 29-Jun-2006 at 19:18 |
Pechenegs had 200,000 population which is aobut 20,000 warriors
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 02:50 |
Originally posted by BigL
Pechenegs had 200,000 population which is aobut 20,000 warriors |
Well, most of the Hungarian historians try to calculate the population of the Hungarian tribal federation by using the 20 000 men data. It is estimated 100-120 000 people.
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Posted: 10-Aug-2006 at 10:26 |
Originally posted by xi_tujue
the seljuks were the first muslim turkish stable monarchie I think it's called that. |
I think I know what you mean. However, prior to the Seljuks was Mahmud of Gazni and his forces. The Seljuks were the ones that rebelled and later expelled the Gaznavids.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2014 at 12:35 |
Originally posted by BigL
Sythian armies were small in size like 10,000men.
Seljuk turks had 20,000 men
The mongols invaded china with 150,000 men.
Are these numbers correct , and what numbers of men did the western steppe produce compared to the eastern steppe.
(West of the Altai mountain, |
It's generally accepted that the Mongols travelled in "Tumens" which equalled about one hundred thousand men. Depending on what task they were about to embark on, they may have approached with smaller forces, or much larger. They often split into "tumens" when travelling for logistical reasons, their combined armies of up to five hundred thousand being harder to feed and water.
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