LORI FEILI

I'm sorry didnt get the question.

Was it why we call the kurds amoza (son of my fathers brother) and not bera(brother)? Have  i understand it right?

 

Agree with u Zagros, when it comes to soranis.

Good, for once, we have agreed to agree with each other

 

One more thing, Faylis are kurds (lurs), as Kak Omran clarified, and as i wrote at the end of the "Fayli" thread. (sources are provided by Kak omran).

 

And fayli is closer to sorani (both aforementioned are kurdish) than farsi.

I have a dictionary swedish-south kurdish. there i have written in our words in it- in places where the meanings differs from "south kurdish"-, and i have noticed that 9 of 15 words are exactly the same (of those words i can, God knows my fayli is not perfect). Put in two more words, that sounds a bit different, but when u read it u understand it instantly and u will have 11 of 15 that are the same.

I can send u the book if u require it as a source as long as u promise to send it back  Or i can scan some of the pages so u can see it also.

Imagune how we human being our DNA IS colse to each others.

 I am  son  of  Hayat Qulikhan ,son of Esfandyar khan Ameer jang ,son Gholam Reza Khan Waly ,son of Hussian Qulikhan .. Abo ghdarah Feili..................  and thank you for asking

 

 The laguage of all componant of Iranian community of Nations are gravitating toward the official language which is called Pahlavi persian.

My Father  will   say: cee khod  in lori" I  say :aray tao,  My father will say Honai Ali ma khan , I say Mali Ali mama khan

  My father will say  to some one he did not like Day bawa

      I say Kori  sag

In one  generation our Lori language under went a radical change. Lari  is no exceptions ,as of now they speak a country side Persian . Like most of Iran    Arabic words is comming  in by  Osmoses from all direction.And  because of  their havey influence  in all over Persian Golf we should expact  more cultural infleunce from that region `s language .We in Iran Lack  a coherant  movement for cultural  revival and purity, Arab and Turks  spend a lot of efforts to protect their language ,we just let it happens the way it happens; circumstances moves us in its own way. Feilies  of Iraq  speaks mostly Arabics  to their children , good by Loristan ,and Lori to them  and  Loristan is a talk about some pre historic State .In most history books witen during the    thirteen century  and on  records  that Lori feili  draw thier maps by including Baghdad as their teritories  and they control it .If you tell that to  a Fieli  Gentelman he will never think it  was possible ,because the Iraqi   and the  Pahlavi regemes  crushed and almost killed their  National self esteem by oblitrating their History and   their Culture.Laris on   much more safer grounds

 

I think it was during the reign of the Khorshidi dynasti that bagdad was part of the "luristan" wilayat, am i corrrect? And it was for almost 3 decades?

 

And u are correct , many faylis do speak arabic with their children, and some speak farsi with their children. But there are some, like my father, who only speaks kurdish with his children. I do not any arabic for instance, despite the fact that my father was born in iraq, as myself, he never taught me any arabic, alhamdulellah. The farsi i had to learn since we lived in iran during my uprising, but we never speak another language than kurdish in our home. And ur dialec i understand perfectly, ur fathers is a bit harder (the older generation  that is), but understand it also.

 

I have noticed for example that the kurds in ilam say "da mal", instead of "la mal".

 

Yeah, there are alot of turkmens, assyrians and arabs in my hometown too. Sannandaj is filled with them... Nice generalization omran feili.

 

 

 

GOOD  no harm feeling I just said what  I beleave 

 

 

 

 Idid promissed you some more information regardin the Laries and Laristan

 

Aparently Lar like at the time of the MEDE  was used as first name for boys.

The city of Lar had a different name but in the time of Ki Khosro of the Kian ( The Mede ) who apointed  Ger geen as crowned prince for that great city GEr Geen   first son Name was Lar and he named the city  after him;

Prior to intering the city the  Lord Astranomer warned  Ger  Geen of bad omen so he waited seven years  out  of  the of the city untill the astonomer told him  is  O right to enter .

Since  no king on earth has been able to conquer the Laristan and for four thosand years the decedant of  Ger geen ruled Laristan. Legend says all retreating  Persian  royaltieas and nobilies were hidden in Laristan because they were safe to be their.

The first Muslem  abrove to be ruler of Laristan  during the  Khilafat of Omer ben abdel Aziz  Is Jalel el deen  Eraj  Ki Qobad

 

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At the time  of Safavees Ibraheem Khan decdant of Ki Qobad was ruling aparently  he refuse paying Taxes to Shah Abass and that is  how the conflict started .It is a long long history longer then History of Iran

 

Omran i spoke with my father and he is adament the larti came from Loristan and not Fars - there is a place there called "Sar Abe Lart" which gets its name from the Larti, what do you think?

 

Again, thanks for the additional information.