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Mudfahedrin
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Topic: Most powerful country Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 17:38 |
Here are my oppinions about the most powerfull country in the year XXXX:
With the "the most powerful country in XXX" I mean, that these country was able to defeat every other country in an duel(without interference of a 3rd country) in that time:
USA 1979-?(the CCCP had economial problems and war in Afghanistan)
CCCP 1962-1979(CCCP had Nuke and rockets in Cuba)
USA 1945-1962(USA had Nuke and best economy)
CCCP 1943-1945(CCCP won the east-front and had a huge army)
Third Reich 1938-1943(2nd largest Industry, well technology and tactic)
USA 1918-1938( well economy and biggest winner of WW 1)
Germany 1912-1918(2nd largest Industry, well military and weapons)
Great Britain 1815-1912(largest economy, best fleet and a big Empire)
Frace 1588-1815(big army, Lous XIV...Napoleon)
Spain 1571-1588(biggest empire and much silber best fleet)
Ottoman 1453-1571( they had byzanz, a large army...)
Ming China 1368-1453(big population, large economy, big army...)
Mongolic Empire 1206-1368(founding to downfall)
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Mudfahedrin
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 17:43 |
What do you think about it?
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 17:51 |
Originally posted by Mudfahedrin
Mongolic Empire 1206-1368(founding to downfall) |
They were defeated Dai Viet (modern Vietnam) 3 times in the 13th century and Java (Modern Indonesia) in 1292, therefore, that makes Dai Viet and Java two of the most powerful countries in their era according to your logic.
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 18:22 |
No it doesnt as Da Viet would stand no chance in invading Yuan controlled china, neither would Vietnam have a chance in invanding USA in the 70;s.
use some common sense.
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 18:24 |
+ maybe the Qing was more powerful than Ottoman empire but great list apart from that.
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 18:28 |
Originally posted by Mudfahedrin
Frace 1588-1815(big army, Lous XIV...Napoleon)
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France lost the French and Indian War in the 1760's to Great Britain which cost them all the possession in North America region.
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Paul
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 18:49 |
Between 1588 and 1740, was France ever more powerful than The Moguls? Also the Burmese and Khmeres at their peaks seem to be missing.
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 19:13 |
USA 1919- 1938, The US suffered the great depression in 1929, Isolationism was at it's peak. The Army was rated 15th or 16th. Navy and air force weren't much better.
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Posted: 03-Jun-2006 at 01:34 |
I have to say that Britain during the Victorian age was the undisputed ruler of the world. No one could touch them whatsoever.
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BigL
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Posted: 06-Jun-2006 at 04:08 |
Kmers and burmese Why>.>>>
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Posted: 06-Jun-2006 at 06:27 |
Roman Empire?
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Ikki
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Posted: 06-Jun-2006 at 06:43 |
I like the list. Some points:
France wasn't powerful after 1588, her hegemony began around 1640, the most powerful christian state was Spain by that time.
Is very difficult find the most powerful before 1800, so i think is
more accurate to say many powers, with exceptions of course.
Offer:
III-I BC: Qin-Han China/Rome
I-III AC: Roman Empire/Han China
III-middle VII: Roman Empire/Sassanid Persia
Middle VII-IX: Tang China/Caliphate
X: Byzantine Empire
XI-middle XIII: Song China
Middle XIII-XIV: Mongol-Yuan
XV: Ming China/Ottoman Empire
XVI-middle XVII: Ottoman Empire/Spain/Ming China
Middle XVII-XVIII: France
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Posted: 07-Jun-2006 at 00:30 |
I think Jin has more power than song.
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Posted: 07-Jun-2006 at 05:22 |
Yes but i'm Song lover and i can't resist the economic power of that China; before the jurchen invasion, without doubts.
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Posted: 07-Jun-2006 at 14:00 |
Was Germany really two times in history the most powerful state?
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Posted: 07-Jun-2006 at 17:40 |
Huh? Why wasn't Han dynasty of China up there?
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Posted: 08-Jun-2006 at 00:24 |
One word:China, throughout most of history with exceptions of periods of division.
Reason? Big population, hence large economy and a large army. This coupled with a large sophisticated bureucracy makes China the most powerful state in history up to 1800.
Read Angus Maddison's "Chinese Economic performances on the long run" and "The World Economy, A mellenium perspective". Maddison states that China's economy led the world historically. (India is not a single state)
"to become a successful hegemon, it helps to be both very rich and very big"
Economic power is a roughly indication of power either hegemonically or statistically. Some other factor are military spending, coherency of the government, and allies. Of these China have also led for most of history since the Qin.
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Posted: 08-Jun-2006 at 15:35 |
What about Egpyt? Wasnt Egpyt a super power in its time?
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Posted: 08-Jun-2006 at 16:56 |
Yes it was, but he startet the list in 1206.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2006 at 17:00 |
Was Ming China able to defeat Japan?
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