Questions on Kurds

 

 

Dude, PKK brought the Kurdish question to an international level. Today Kurds can atleast have some more freedom when you talk about cultural expression. That would never of existed without PKK. They started it all.

 

Dude, stay away from Pkk Terrorist propoganda sites, are these the kind of lies their now resorting to. The Kurdish issue has been plotted for the past hundred years by the big powers but each time they failed to grasp and understand the structure of the fiercely tribal society of the Kurds, remember Sheyh Said. So they decided on their new Frankensenian invention PKK Terrorism, a extremist RACIST Marxist organisation totally anti-Islamic, anti-feudal (ironic as they became tribal themselves) to actually change Kurdish society.

 

Pkk never got any freedoms for the Kurds, they actually delayed Kurds getting their rights. If Kurds had gone down the democratic path and peacefully pledged for their rights to be recognised as Turkey developed it would have been accepted much sooner. But instead Pkk created a backlash and blackened the reputation of Kurds. Sure for a few years the West shamefully tried to play them as the good guys. But when Terrorism hit us in the West we suddenly changed our tune, refound our "morals" and started lecturing the world about how terrible terrorism was. Well Turkey new all about that already as it had cost 40,000 lives already.

 

Do you know what happened in Diyabakir this year? Pkk tried to  create its old style rallies in its main base. Guess what people were fed up,, people refused to join, then you know what hppened? Pkk Terroists looted and attacked shops of Kurds, razed the city and burnt it, destroyed its reputation, kept investors away, hurt the cities tourism and so on. Don't you realise its Kurds who suffer because of these Terrorists their business were looted and destroyed how will they now provide for their families.

 

Pkk Terrorists are a racist organisation, they want an ethnically pure Kurdish state, not only that but the Kurds must be Marxist, renounce being Muslims and worship Apo. Their a disgrace and their support keeps dropping with this sort of behaviour.

 

 

 

So English, Irish, Iranian, German, Dutch, Itallian tourists are now the Turkish

army are they that's disgusting, hiding behind the banner of pretending to fight the armed forces

while they kill kids, woman, teachers, non-Turkish tourists, Kurds, rob, loot, and make Kurds lives a misery. How admirable 

 

I have a independent Kurdish state, is that so bad?

 

What do the Turkish army do huh, their an army with the aim like all national armies to protect the country. If some extremist Marxist Swede's starting killing innocent Sweedish people who a so-called "cause" would the army sit back and watch, would you condemn the army for reacting.

 

Why should I not attack a internationally regarded Terrorist Organisation, I'm not giving a subjective view they are a Terrorist Org this is a fact, they are involved in Drug trafficing, human trafficing, raising child soldiers, killing children, woman, teachers to try and frighten and terrorise people. What exactly is their NOT bad about these scumbags.

 

 

http://www.id.gov.jo/human/activities2000/...ast_report.html 

 

Expatriate recruitment of children to serve with armed groups in the region

Some armed groups are known to have recruited children from outside the region. In particular the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)has held recruitment drives in Swedish schools, the Kurdish community living in France, Germany and the Netherlands.

The Coalition was recently informed of the case of a 16-year old Kurdish girl who is missing since March 1999 after joining a meeting in a Kurdish centre.

The PKK has systematically recruited children, even creating children's regiments. One of which was run by a committee of five children aged between 8 and 12 years.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMD...open&of=ENG-364


In 1997, a 14-year-old girl was one of several female guerrillas taken prisoner by the Turkish army during an offensive in Turkey's Cudi mountains. She explained that she joined the PKK the previous year and that she received political and military training at a PKK camp innorthern Iraq. She was a Syrian national. In 1998, 300 children, more than 10 per cent of the PKK's total number of child soldiers, were said to be girls

www.essex.ac.uk/armedcon/story_id/000050.pdf



CHILD RECRUITMENT BY ARMED GROUPS FROM OTHER COUNTRIESOn a number of occasions, the German NGO Gesellschaft f�r bedrohte V�lker has denounced the abduction of children by the Kurdistan Workers� Party (PKK) in Germany for indoctrination, military training and deployment. In Celle, for example, it was reported that Kurdish parents of children who died in hostilities were honoured during a PKK celebration in March 1998.8German police have reported that the PKK has forced children, teenagers and youth to join �political courses�, often in third countries. For example, on 22 November 1998, police in Hanoverreported cases of children in guerrilla training in camps in the Netherlands and Belgium.9
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E-mail: info@child-soldiers.orghttp://www.child-soldiers.org 

 

 

etc  etc etc THIS ISN'T PROPOGANDA THESE ARE FACTS WAKE UP AND PULL YOUR HEAD OUT THE SAND.

 

 

 

Proof? They didn't give them rights for 50 years, then PKK came and things started to happen.

 

You think Pkk Terrorists were the firsts, you forget Shey Said and the load of others who were told by their puppet masters they'd get a state if they started killing people but were crushed each time.

 

 

 

 

 

Have you lived in Turkey, are you a Turkish citizen? so why are you talking

as if you are and as if your a total expert on the Turkish government. 

If it's so racist, why have their been Kurdish prime-ministers, why is everyone treated the same under the law of citizenship, no 

difference is made on paper between the people their all citizens and represented equally.

 

Ha, funny you talk about Genocide, as if Kurds weren't in the area in WW1,

you know what the Kurdish gangs got up to, Assyrians arn't very happy with Kurds

behaviour in WW1 are they, also Kurds were fighting againsts Armenians aswell

so pointing fingers is Ironic as your also without realising attacking yourself.

 

Besides, the Turkish government in the time of these so-called events was the Ottoman Government, todays Turkey went

through a revolution and was established in 1923.

 

Turkey has problems your correct, its not perfect but which country is,

if  you wanted to you could pick a bone with any state. 

 

hehe Bulldog, now you got owned. Please he's Turkish and said that his state is a little facist.

 

I know that Kurdish gangs were involved. WE'VE OPENLY SAID SORRY, DID THE TURKS DO THAT? Besides, Kurdish gangs don't represent the Kurdish people, the Turkish goverment do.

 

"etc  etc etc THIS ISN'T PROPOGANDA THESE ARE FACTS WAKE UP AND PULL YOUR HEAD OUT THE SAND."

 

Hehe, have you seen how many times the Turkish goverment has been in HRW? I rest my case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I apologize, my family apologizes, I know political parties that have taken their reponsibilities. Wasn't there a party that made a statement regarding this issue a while ago, and apologized?

 

No, not PKK as we.

 

I'm no fan of PKK.

 

But you can blame the Turkish goverment, they were behind it - the planning of it.