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Poll Question: Are Turks caucasoid or mongoloid
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    Posted: 28-May-2006 at 12:50
From what ive seen about the place i would probably classify them as caucasoid as of present, they dont look mongoloid. In another thread they say feel closer to Iranians and Leonidas (the proud Greek who doesnt like anglos) regards them as mediterraneans.
 
Without sounding like a fool i would say some some Turks are silly when they talk of these mongoloids with pride (atilla), when they arent even the same race. Say for example some Persians or Vikings settled in Japan or Africa then mixing with the natives taking on their characteristics and then imagine Africans or Japanese thinking they are Persians or scandanavians. In my eyes its ridiculous. Theyre national hero has Blonde haor and Blue eyes, Ataturk definately is not Mongoloid.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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If the question meant to be the original Turks, then I'd say they were Caucasoid. That's why I voted for it.
 
Present day Turkic people (even as early as Hunnic period), mainly Turanoid, with some exceptions.
 
 
 


Edited by barbar - 29-May-2006 at 23:03
Either make a history or become a history.
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By the way, the history of Turkic people were much earlier than Atilla time. He was Turanoid, due to the close contact with the Mongolic tribes in the steppe before migration. There isn't any silliness in feeling proud of his deeds.
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[QUOTE=The Charioteer] Camel was called "tuo tuo" during the Han-dynasty.

from description of Xiong Nu in the Han shu, tuotuo is one of the "rare domestic animal" that the Xiong Nu possess.
Its recorded in the Han Shu that during emperor Wen di's reign, Xiong Nu chief presented a tuo tuo to the Han emperor. During the successor of Wen di, emperor Jing di's period, there were royal enclosed animal preserve that contain the tuo tuo.(camel)...
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I don't know why do you give me such information, we're talking about the Gok Turk, not some campaigns or one or two tributes.
    
    
    
    
    

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Originally posted by selam

Originally posted by xi_tujue

see i don't have a problem with you posting about the poll it's your point of view it's all good bro but I wanted know about the ancient Turks did they come from europe(the west) to asia or the other way around cuz I keep hearing different theories. I personally think Siberia Yenisay basin.

It's all good
 
btw what about anatolian, azeri tatar and meskh's
(how much we mix and change eyes don't lie almond shaped I think?)Big smile
 what about youself ??? maybe you can put up your pic,let's see if you are caucasion ,dude !!!! Wink
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A bit late but what the hey
 
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I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
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what is your hometown(at turkey)?
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Agri but We're from ahiska
 
BTW why?


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Well you are dark like eastern people, but of course If you are as dark as picture.
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no I'm not that dark accualy it's (tanningBig smile)
 
I don't think turks had verry light skin like the chinese or japanese.
 
Mongols and turks were allways darker no?


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I don't know why do you give me such information, we're talking about the Gok Turk, not some campaigns or one or two tributes. 
 
 
You asked Seko for primary source on the issue of Han import of camel.
I think archaeological discoveries that i've provided answered that. As correlated with record from Han Shu that Han probably imported them via either XiongNu or central Asia.


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A bit late but what the hey
 
btw I know I need to get a haircutBig smile
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so sorry .dude , you are middle eastern like arab ,or whatever ,but definitely you are not caucasion !!!!Tongue
 
 
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Originally posted by xi_tujue

no I'm not that dark accualy it's (tanningBig smile)
 
I don't think turks had verry light skin like the chinese or japanese.
 
Mongols and turks were allways darker no?
 
As a northen Chinese, i do have a light skin, infact, my skin is lighter than most of the Chinese girls. that goes same with my elder brother.
however, our parents are actually "darker", my cousin is so dark, that when he came back to homevillage from America, most of the villagers think hes an AfricanConfused
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Originally posted by The Charioteer

Originally posted by xi_tujue

no I'm not that dark accualy it's (tanningBig smile)
 
I don't think turks had verry light skin like the chinese or japanese.
 
Mongols and turks were allways darker no?
 
As a northen Chinese, i do have a light skin, infact, my skin is lighter than most of the Chinese girls. that goes same with my elder brother.
however, our parents are actually "darker", my cousin is so dark, that when he came back to homevillage from America, most of the villagers think hes an AfricanConfused
Hmmm, at home i have the "darkest" skincolor :D With darkest i mean i have a "yellowish" skincolor, whasnt that a typical "option" of Mongolid or whatever people? My mom-side is "y顤k" => Turkish nomad and she has such skincolor.
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Originally posted by selam

 
 
 
A bit late but what the hey
 
btw I know I need to get a haircutBig smile
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so sorry .dude , you are middle eastern like arab ,or whatever ,but definitely you are not caucasion !!!!Tongue
 
 
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I never said that I'm caucasion and what defines caucasion skin color ahah no ( half my family is blonde and half are dark could anyone explain)
my motherside is mostly blondish but not realblonde blonde dark or light brown(blue and green eyes) My fathers side is a bit darker but also blue and green eyes are common( And I think thats not the case with middle eastern people or is it?)
 
Btw both families originate from the caucasus (meshk turks)


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Originally posted by The Charioteer

You asked Seko for primary source on the issue of Han import of camel.
I think archaeological discoveries that i've provided answered that. As correlated with record from Han Shu that Han probablyimported them via either XiongNu or central Asia.

Actually I mentioned about the Gok Turk originally not XiongNu, whether the discoveries that you provided correlate with primary sources or otherwise, still obscure the issue of what I was talking about.
    

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Originally posted by DayI

Hmmm, at home i have the "darkest" skincolor :D With darkest i mean i have a "yellowish" skincolor, whasnt that a typical "option" of Mongolid or whatever people? My mom-side is "y顤k" => Turkish nomad and she has such skincolor.

If you had been to some large cites in China, such as shenzhen you will found out that most of them are consisted of highly non-local distribution from the north, I had a several friends from Jilin works over there.
    

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Originally posted by wefone90

Originally posted by DayI

Hmmm, at home i have the "darkest" skincolor :D With darkest i mean i have a "yellowish" skincolor, whasnt that a typical "option" of Mongolid or whatever people? My mom-side is "y顤k" => Turkish nomad and she has such skincolor.

If you had been to some large cites in China, such as shenzhen you will found out that most of them are consisted of highly non-local distribution from the north, I had a several friends from Jilin works over there.
    
hmmm, what the lession i should take of this?
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they are mix of alpins and asiatic indians alpins
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Originally posted by wefone90

Actually I mentioned about the Gok Turk originally not XiongNu, whether the discoveries that you provided correlate with primary sources or otherwise, still obscure the issue of what I was talking about
 
then you are absent-minded
 
Originally posted by wefone90

Actually no, none of the sources had suggested the Han have imported camels from the Hsiung-nu nor did the Gok Turks, hunted and fought on camelback, at least not that I'm aware of.
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You asked Seko for primary source on the issue of Han import of camel.

I think archaeological discoveries that i've provided answered that. As correlated with record from Han Shu that Han probablyimported them via either XiongNu or central Asia.

Take a look at what you said, before getting too excited.
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