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Topic: Meskhetian Turks Posted: 18-May-2006 at 11:07 |
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Posted: 18-May-2006 at 11:22 |
Thank you very much Seko, I appreciate this.
Could anybody please provide some more info about these people's.
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Posted: 18-May-2006 at 22:32 |
Originally posted by Bulldog
Thank you very much Seko, I appreciate this.
Could anybody please provide some more info about these people's.
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I remember that you asked if there are any plans to bring these Turks back to Georgia. Well here you go:
Georgia to address Meskhetian issue Sunday, April 23, 2006 FULYA ZERKAN
ANKARA - Turkish Daily News
The Georgian government has launched a process for the return of the Meskhetian Turks, a lesser known group of victimized people who were deported en masse in 1944 by former Soviet ruler Josef Stalin.
It's time to take concrete steps, not to make rhetoric, Giorgi Khaindrava, Georgian state minister for conflict resolution, said last week in Ankara.
The Georgian minister admitted that the process for resettlement of displaced Meskhetian Turks, who are dispersed worldwide, was not an easy one and called on the international community and neighboring Turkey to extend a helping hand in sorting out the matter.
We want these people to regain the rights they lost over history; we'll grant them their rights, he added.
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 10:50 |
Thanks Feramez, how are relations between Georgia and Turkic countries in the region? do you think they'll allow this resettlement?
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 20:40 |
I think so, I'm not sure about the relations with Georgia and Central Asia, but I know Azerbeycan and Turkey have good relations with them.
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 12:40 |
But what difference will it make it won't be the same anymore right.
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 20:04 |
Do the Ahiska Turks have a flag to represent them selves?
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Posted: 26-May-2006 at 13:27 |
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Posted: 26-May-2006 at 21:53 |
Can you explain the meaning of it, colors, etc?
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Posted: 27-May-2006 at 03:39 |
Not yet but soon I will ask my grandpa
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Posted: 27-May-2006 at 03:42 |
I found this thow
The flag of the Meskhetian people is a horizontal tricolor of white, red and black, with a vertical green stripe on the hoist, charged with a white crescent moon. The crescent moon and green color are traditionally associated with Islam; the symbolism of the white/red/black tricolor is unclear.
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Posted: 02-Jun-2006 at 22:49 |
ahiskan turks and meskhets are not the same thing thats the georgian goverments politicsties to empose there werentany tturks inthe region they were turkish speaking georgian muslims yes they are true there also were turkish speaking georgians which called meshketians (the name of the region) becouse of that if you can refer ahiskan turks rather than meskeths i will appreciate ahiskan turks are oguz some people say they settled in those land with the seljuk rule in the area
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Posted: 03-Jun-2006 at 04:25 |
I'm a ahiska turk my self my Great grandfather came from a villeage called Hero( I think its spelled like that)
He who wants to denie that the ahiskalilar are turks use the word Meskhetian Muslims and not turks.
I don't know just nice to meet you kardes
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i was not reffering reffering that when the soviet goverment decided to resettle crimean turks ,chechens and karachai turks in their homeland ahiskan turks wanted to resettle to but georgian goverment told them that they have to accept they are not turkish they are georgian they need to change their names to georgian names that was the reason i insist on ahiskan turks rather than meskhetians my grandfather came from ahiska in russian turkish war i am the second generation althought iwas not able to talk with my grandfather my father allways told me that we have to be proud of being ahiskan turk becouse we are honest hardworking people whereever they settled ahiskan turks in short term we become the masters of their economy that was the reason of fergana massacre in 1989 it is allways nice to now another ahiskan turk
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Posted: 04-Jun-2006 at 04:04 |
Originally posted by yalbuzdag
i was not reffering reffering that when the soviet goverment decided to resettle crimean turks ,chechens and karachai turks in their homeland ahiskan turks wanted to resettle to but georgian goverment told them that they have to accept they are not turkish they are georgian they need to change their names to georgian names that was the reason i insist on ahiskan turks rather than meskhetians my grandfather came from ahiska in russian turkish war i am the second generation althought iwas not able to talk with my grandfather my father allways told me that we have to be proud of being ahiskan turk becouse we are honest hardworking people whereever they settled ahiskan turks in short term we become the masters of their economy that was the reason of fergana massacre in 1989 it is allways nice to now another ahiskan turk |
ooh my God.Thats almost exacly what My grandfather sais.
BTW do you still speak ahiska Turkish
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Posted: 05-Jun-2006 at 01:39 |
actually no becouse i never had chance to know my grandfathers but its not so different becouse its an oguz dialect of turkish
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Posted: 05-Jun-2006 at 05:00 |
Yeah I little bit more raw I allways say. I can't speak it so good but It's fun to listen to when my grandfather and his brothers keep talking about the good old days once in a while you hear communist B*st*rds. Then silence.
After a few seconds the conversation continous. But half I don't understand they also use some georgian words I guess because I never heard them inTurkish and I don't think either in azeri
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Posted: 05-Jun-2006 at 23:58 |
you are lucky i met with ahiskans from turkmenistan and krasnodar they kinda lose their accent to other turkish dialects the name i m using is my last name it is a name of o mountain in ahiska it is called yalbozze in georgian there are some website which are well maintained about our problems so many of our brothers settled in usa now thing look bright for them once i met with a georgian guy he ask me if i m georgian i said no than explained he told me once ahiska produced best grapes in georgia but he said after stalin deport ahiskan turks it never become same he said earth misses their masters insallah i will visit ahiska one they to see
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Posted: 06-Jun-2006 at 05:36 |
From Omran Feili
Dear fellow Human being : Zia Goekalp a Kurd from Diarbaker Kurdistan,wrote a bout Turish history based on Persian methology converted it to Ata Turk test for a fee. ;
Turan were this name comes from ? Other then the Persian epic poetry of Shah Nama of Ferdawsee some thousand years ago, you will never find this name any were else. according to Ferdawsee :
Legend Say the Methical King Feraedoon Empror of Persia Had three Sons One Is Iraj the second Tur and the third is Salim. Tur son of persian Empror Feraedoon is the the father pf Turan .
Now will some one please help me to find Turks in this equation?
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