Cyrus the Movie

Originally posted by Digenis Originally posted by YusakuJon3 Just as with Stone's Alexander, I have my doubts about the Hollywood treatment of historical figures and events, creative license or not. Whats your objections about historical accuracy in Stone's Alexander? Although,except the Gaugamela battle (awsome) ,the movie was really boring, the historical accuracy was more of a documentary film than of a movie . I could recognize 80% of the dialogues-they were taken as a whole from the sources! I think that a film,(esp a Hollywood film) cannot be more accurate than Alexander...

that movie was not historically accurate! what are you talking about?!

that movie was 90% pure hollywood bs, the other 10% may have been accurate, but the movie was garbage.

Dude, that movie was totally inaccurate.  For one, they said Babylon was the capital of Achaemenid Persia when in fact Perspolis was.  They totally didnt even speak of Perspolis.    Second, in the battle of Gaugamela, Alexander is supposed to be fighting the Persian army with Greek mercenaries.  When he gets his troops ready, he says "For the glory of Greece!" which is totally false.  If they wanted to be more 'accurate', then they should have said "For the glory of Macedonia!"

OK i also agree if they want a realistic portrail of Cyrus and the Achamanids they need to cast people who at least look something like Persians.  I think the movie if not made by the guys you are talking about will be made eventually some time in the near future hopefully. 

Another thing not having to do with this subject is how do we know how the Persians lived there is little written evidence to tell us of there customs not counting Nowruz or other ancient holidays.  I think it would be very difficult to make a movie about the Persians and Cyrus with out these facts. 

I personally have read several books on Cyrus but most of them were fictional creations telling about his child hood.  So you see it would be very hard to tell the story.  With Alexander on the other hand and the ancient Greeks they had so much written facts and evidence of thier daily lives and about Alexander's personality as well. 

These things are missing about Cyrus and the Persians so that is what i am basicly trying to say. 

Just as with Stone's Alexander, I have my doubts about the Hollywood treatment of historical figures and events, creative license or not.  I think a film about the rise of Achaemenid Persia under Cyrus would make for a brilliant family film illustrating some of the good and bad in such a person.  Hollywood "PC" tends to obssess with whether their subject was a sensitive New Age boy or having their favorite actress run naked around a set with a dagger in hand.



That being said, I'm pretty sure there are some actors and actresses in Hollywood right now who'd be a better fit to the roles of Cyrus and those around him than the usual suspects who get pulled up...

(Edit: "actress" with two r's...sugar high from morning coffee just became a crash...)


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Sounds like its time to call for a boycott. Whose with me

Go for it.
I doubt a boycott by Iranians would affect Hollywood much.

Btw, that example is a good idea, artisticly speaking, and it wouldn't suprise me if its already been done on a theatrical level.


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But what is a moor?
In English moor and black were merged into one with the notion of the Blackamoor, but in continental cultural views, the moor was just a muslim, he could look like anything, filipino even (moro gulf anyone).
Anyways, anyone who expects Hollywood to do history seriously needs to take their head out of their arse, its never done that. Its called entertainment for reason.

 

Most people in the western world don't black Ottello seriously, but the case it a little different with an Iranian character.

I thought is was Othello?

Especially in the Middle east and positions of power. Did anyone ever watch Hercules? or Xena? notice they had blacks and the Queen and leaders of Summeria were black? Or Egyptian being played as black? all this inaccuraciies are bad, how about a black King Arthur? or Hamlet? or Black ceasar, or Alexander? how about that!