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Topic: Is horse archery still practice in CA? Posted: 03-Apr-2006 at 05:31 |
Hi all,
I'm new here and glad to be learning about your culture and stuff, fascinating!
Now do you guys still practice horse archery; as a sport or cultural event? I can't seems to find any info on it.
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Posted: 03-Apr-2006 at 10:12 |
In mongolia the remotest tribes use hunting rifles, so I presume its the same in CA.
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Posted: 03-Apr-2006 at 21:32 |
Hi Zagros, thks for your reply.
No doubt technology has caught up with them, just wondering why its not practiced since its part of thier heritage. Heard taht some Mongolians still do archery, and the Koreans are known to be very good too (the Olympics).
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Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 08:45 |
Originally posted by raygun
Hi Zagros, thks for your reply.
No doubt technology has caught up with them, just wondering why its not practiced since its part of thier heritage. Heard taht some Mongolians still do archery, and the Koreans are known to be very good too (the Olympics).
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we (i speak for Turkey's Turkish people) do still practise horse-sports, like chirit, polo and such.
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Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 09:37 |
[/QUOTE] we (i speak for Turkey's Turkish people) do still practise horse-sports, like chirit, polo and such. [/QUOTE]
Sounds good, horses are such noble animals, and beautiful too.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 13:18 |
I know the Japanese practice horse archery...in Mongolia there is our Nadaam where archery is one of the main sports but its not from horseback.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 13:50 |
not horse archery,but some other traditional sports,as far as I known:at least two kinda horse games are very common among Khazak,Kyrgyz and Uighur people.In uighur language called Oghlaq tartish and Qiz qoghlash(Qiz quwar in Khazak),as figures given below:
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 15:44 |
I found more,
Oghlaq tartish,Uighur people
Oghlaq tartish,Uzbek people
Khazak people,Oghlaq tartish
horse race(Khazak)
Qiz quwar,Khazak
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 21:06 |
Hey, Khazak people's Oghlaq tartish looks kinda similar to some Afghan folks game on horseback. Perhaps they were identical people?
And what is the significance of Qiz quwar? Is it some kind of courtship riture?
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Posted: 24-Apr-2006 at 11:15 |
very good post suevari
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Posted: 27-Apr-2006 at 10:50 |
Originally posted by raygun
Hey, Khazak people's Oghlaq tartish looks kinda similar to some Afghan folks game on horseback. Perhaps they were identical people?
And what is the significance of Qiz quwar? Is it some kind of courtship riture? |
Hi raygun, sorry for the delay.Yes ,you are right,I found that Afghan people have the same stuff with Turkic Oghlaq tartish,and Tajik people(in the pamir upland) also has,but they ride jaks(or ox) instead of horses. In our region,the rules of Oghlaq tartish is simple and same among Uighur,Khazak and Kyrgyz people.First someone offer a sheep or a goat to the villagers as a sign of his sons ceromony ,the sheep is killed and thrown to riders as a goal.everybody trys to go off with the sheep.After almost one day struggle, one who is stronger,has excellent riding technics and has fast running horse will win and take the sheep.Sometimes the winner gives the sheep back to the host-family,then the family gives him a present in order to show their respect.This is really a tough game,needs strength ,technic as well as endurance.As you see,you have to hold the sheep while running fast,in your both sides people are trying to grab it.often,the sheep drops to the ground and you have to pick it up.horses are tall and sheeps are heavy,imagine how difficult it is! There is another way to play,the riders split up several groups,two to five in each, and stay together as a base camp, a couple riders stay several thousand meters away from the base as a distance limit.everytime each group rides strait to limit point with permission and rides back.Struggle goes on among each group in the running way. The Qiz quwar is a game between a girl and a boy,they ride off same time with close distance,and the girl has right to beat the boy with her horsewhip while riding and fortunately there is a distance limit,only thing the boy can do is just try to escape.
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Posted: 27-Apr-2006 at 12:07 |
'Oqloq Tartysh' or 'Qiz qowor (these are the way they're pronounced in Turkmen's tongue)' are traditions usually held in wedding ceremonies or parties, reunions, things like that; especially 'Qiz Qowor' which is held in any Turkmen ceremony (except for those people who've got Modern situation). But the question is about Archery which is really hard to find here in Central Asia.
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