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Topic: God or Allah? Posted: 21-Aug-2012 at 19:34 |
"Lord of the Future" is a great argument for predestination: everything happens because God has already decided
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Posted: 21-Aug-2012 at 19:52 |
Isn't this kind of a pointless topic as the first page of the second chapter(the cow according to the copy I have might be wrong I don't know) says that the christian god is the same as the moslem god. So sayin god allah or any other name for any of the three great religions god is essentially the same as any other.
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Posted: 22-Aug-2012 at 00:59 |
Pointless? Depends on whether your a Hebrew-Jew, Christian, Muslim.....Arab Christian or any number of other sects who hold the Ancient One dear.....And they have yet to agree in totality. And...therein lies the rub. Because they dont agree.
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Posted: 22-Aug-2012 at 01:25 |
So the problems not the term. Its the people using it.
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Posted: 22-Aug-2012 at 01:57 |
using it and ......defining it....Based on the historical and cultural context in which their theological practices and beliefs were developed..... And is yet continued to this day.
With very little modification.
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Posted: 22-Aug-2012 at 19:49 |
Centrix made an excellent point: everyone worships the same God, but sheer narrow-mindedness prevents them from getting on with each other. If every Christian, Jew and Muslim put aside their differences and helped other adherents of Moses' law, the world would be a much better place
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Posted: 22-Aug-2012 at 19:52 |
They all are divided on major parts of their religion and to compromise would deatroy each of their faiths.
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Posted: 23-Aug-2012 at 19:11 |
Certain irrefutable truths are common to Judaism, Islam and Christianity: there is only one God who must be appeased with prayer; don't kill, rape or steal; there are prophets capable of interpreting God's commands; there is life after death; and the first prophet was Abraham. The only divisions are the subsequent prophets each sect follows, each of whom emphasised certain teachings over others
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Posted: 24-Aug-2012 at 09:40 |
The main issue in my honest opinion is mutual exclusivity. Most religious groups tend to consider that they uphold the only veritable truth and as a coincidence all the other groups are seen as infidels or heretics who are destined to the hell-fire. Religion should be open to everyone and no one should be able to judge others based on their mutual differences, as great as they could be. Best case in point would be Judaism. In Judaism, other religious people who don't necessarily follow the Tanakh as they do are not considered as outsiders who can't reach God's mercy and might also have a place in the 'world to come'. Some sects of Judaism have of course, historically, enclosed the religion so as only Hebrews could enter Heaven and follow the commandments. Yet I do not see this as a teaching based on Torah, but rather a later Talmudic addition (sages opinions). Technically from the Jewish perspective, anyone who adheres to the Noahide Laws and is a good person (Ger Tzedeq) may have a place in the world to come and this would include Christians and Muslims as long as they don't commit idolatry (Avodah Zarah). The paths may differ but if the goal is one, why so much dispute?
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