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    Posted: 16-Jun-2005 at 13:27
Originally posted by DRAKON

The use of the atomic bomb in Japan.

I absolutely agree. An act done by the "civilized Allies". It just has to be one of the greatest ( if not the greatest ) crimes in world wide history.
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the mass genocide against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo ...

There was no mass genocide against the Albanians in Kosovo. You were manipulated by western secret services, which deliberately and intentionally via media falsed the reality. Or I rather should say: lied outright.
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I have to agree with the WWII statement!
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Originally posted by DRAKON

The use of the atomic bomb in Japan.



I agree: you can't indiscriminately kill more people in a more brutal manner and in a cheapest way than with a nuclear bomb.

That event has changed our world like nothing else ever did.

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   Discovery  of  writing  by  the Sumers

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well, the greatest event in human's history should be human being came into existence!!!
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WWII and its aftermath:  cold war, creation of Israel etc.
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I'd say the invention of a written language because that has been what has made all human progress possible.  Going from a society where the only way to transmit knowledge was by telling it to someone to one where people from far and wide, and across thousands of years can read what you wrote, know what you know, and feel what you feel is without a doubt the biggest event in all of human existence.
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In modern history I'd say...

The assassination of Franz Ferdinand

Sparked a world war, destroyed one nation which sparked enough hatred to begin a second world war. That second world war led to the creation of the most destructive weapon ever and the beginning of the Cold War. During the C.W the creation of a tiny little nation called Israel occured and well...you can figure the rest out.



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Originally posted by Fort Brooklyn

In modern history I'd say...


The assassination of Franz Ferdinand


Sparked a world war, destroyed one nation which sparked enough hatred to begin a second world war. That second world war led to the creation of the most destructive weapon ever and the beginning of the Cold War. During the C.W the creation of a tiny little nation called Israel occured and well...you can figure the rest out.



I'm rather wary of the argument that WW1 inevitably caused WW2.
There was no such inevitability about the second war.

It was Hitler's and Nazi-Germany's deliberate choice to start yet another round of mass slaughter, and although the hate and dreams of revenge that the nationalist forces in Germany felt against Germany's rather harsh treatment in Versailles, contributed to accomodate Hitler's rise to power, it didn't inform the Nazi's motivations for their military agression. The whole fascist Nazi ideology, their insane believe in the Germans' superiority, and in the natural right of the country to dominate or eradicate lesser countries and people, their alleged need to create more space for the development of the "master-race" was, what sparked WW2.
I think one should be more careful when investigating the Nazi's motivations for their numerous barbaric actions.
There are no excuses.
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70,000 years ago when man almost went extinct.
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 The october revoluthion. The first (if short lived) worker-phesent state was created.
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Originally posted by Komnenos

Originally posted by Fort Brooklyn

In modern history I'd say...


The assassination of Franz Ferdinand


Sparked a world war, destroyed one nation which sparked enough hatred to begin a second world war. That second world war led to the creation of the most destructive weapon ever and the beginning of the Cold War. During the C.W the creation of a tiny little nation called Israel occured and well...you can figure the rest out.



I'm rather wary of the argument that WW1 inevitably caused WW2.
There was no such inevitability about the second war.

It was Hitler's and Nazi-Germany's deliberate choice to start yet another round of mass slaughter, and although the hate and dreams of revenge that the nationalist forces in Germany felt against Germany's rather harsh treatment in Versailles, contributed to accomodate Hitler's rise to power, it didn't inform the Nazi's motivations for their military agression. The whole fascist Nazi ideology, their insane believe in the Germans' superiority, and in the natural right of the country to dominate or eradicate lesser countries and people, their alleged need to create more space for the development of the "master-race" was, what sparked WW2.
I think one should be more careful when investigating the Nazi's motivations for their numerous barbaric actions.
There are no excuses.

Yes, of course the second world war was inevitable. But I'm pretty sure the whole Nazi ideaology came after the first WW. Hitler enlisted in the Barvarian army in 1914 and it is only after the the end of the war did he start to blame everyone else for it. In 1918-1920 is when he started attending political events and eventually the whole thing came to him.

Did he always have it in his head? Most likely. But a German victory in WWI would've kept it inside possibly. The end of WWI is what made Hitler even angrier and by chance found his way to the NSDAP and well the rest is history.



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Originally posted by Maju

Originally posted by DRAKON

The use of the atomic bomb in Japan.



I agree: you can't indiscriminately kill more people in a more brutal manner and in a cheapest way than with a nuclear bomb.

That event has changed our world like nothing else ever did.

Oh I'm sorry. DId you say "cheapest?" Really? I didn't know that there was anything considered "cheap" when it comes to war. Were you thinking when you typed that post. Might as well consider Pearl Harbor a shot to the nuts. Japanese deserved it just for being stupid enough to challenge us. WHen your top military commander says that you can;t win then the war is pretty much decided right there.

150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualties? 150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualites? Think about it for a good long while.



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Originally posted by Hannibal Barca

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Oh I'm sorry. DId you say "cheapest?" Really? I didn't know that there was anything considered "cheap" when it comes to war. Were you thinking when you typed that post. Might as well consider Pearl Harbor a shot to the nuts. Japanese deserved it just for being stupid enough to challenge us. WHen your top military commander says that you can;t win then the war is pretty much decided right there.

150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualties? 150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualites? Think about it for a good long while.

I'm goin to have to agree with Hannibal. By usin the bomb not only did we show our superiority to the Japanese(as if our complete destruction of their naval and air forces didn't do already)..but we also saved a good million American lives with that.

I remember I interviewed a friend of my grandmother who was in the Marines in the Pacific theatre. He showed me a prototype layout of the land invasion of Japan and whatnot. Told me they all knew it would've been a dirty fight. If I remember correctly, the Japanese army still had a few million soldiers enlisted.

So from a military viewpoint, it was justified.

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