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    Posted: 11-Nov-2004 at 14:31
Who do you scholars think is the greatest British Monarch? I hope that there are alot of Brits in this forum. Soem choices may include: Elizabeth I, queen during the Spanish Armada Incident, his father Henry VIII and his six knives, or is it Queen Victoria whose face was used to sell products?
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I'm all for Elizabeth I . This might be of small intrest to you. Medieval English Kings
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Thanks alot, eh!! I voted for William the Conquerer, because I think the Norman Conquest had the greatest impact on the evolution of the British State.

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Queen Victoria is different from other monarchs because she is seen as less a ruler and more a symbolic representation of British power. Whereas Queen Elizabeth did the most to propell what was previously an insignificant backwards island into great power status. She probably had the greatest impact on British History.
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In an attempt to create greater interest on this subject I will ask anyone who they think had the greatest impact on British History. Was it Henry's partition from the church, or Elizabeth's defeat of the Spanish Armada. What British monarch had the greatest impact on British history?
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What a loaded question.

William the Conqueror for one.

Henry II, whose claims to land in France eventually resulted in the 100 Years War.

Henry VIII and Elizabeth I founded the modern UK.

William III, whose antipathy towards Louis XIV gave us 125 years of conflict between UK and France which resulted in the Brits coming out as the dominant world power.  He, and Parliment, also gave us the English Bill of Rights (1689 or 1690 IIRC).
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The Tudors probably did the most to solidify England as a naval and dominant power in the world. Am I right to assume that the Tudor's did the most for England's supremacy?
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Originally posted by Winterhaze13

Henry VIII and his six knives

I thought he had 8 spoons .

Seriusly, Elizabeth I.
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Edward III (might this be the most random choice so far?) ... but really, even if he wasn't king, he was military leader, so... Cromwell (and his lesser partner Fairfax).
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What about Edward, the longshanks?
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What about Edward, the longshanks?


Which Edwards was this?  I thought he was Edwards III.
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Originally posted by capcartoonist

What a loaded question.

William the Conqueror for one.

Henry II, whose claims to land in France eventually resulted in the 100 Years War.

Henry VIII and Elizabeth I founded the modern UK.

William III, whose antipathy towards Louis XIV gave us 125 years of conflict between UK and France which resulted in the Brits coming out as the dominant world power.  He, and Parliment, also gave us the English Bill of Rights (1689 or 1690 IIRC).

I'd go with that list, except I think Henry VII had more influence than Henry VIII, in that he founded the centralised nation state to end the Wars of the Roses. A bit like the importance of Henri IV to France.

However, neither of them founded the UK. That arose from the pure chance that Elizabeth I died childless and the nearest heir was already King of Scotland - which united the kingdoms into one country. 

(I agree with whoever said you can't count Victoria, since she was a symbol rather than a prime mover.)
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There are no great British Monarchs, only less evil ones. 
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Originally posted by mcclane

There are no great British Monarchs, only less evil ones. 

Originally posted by mcclane

There are no great British Monarchs, only less evil ones. 

Too true,

The only purpose I can think of for the British monarchy is put them in camps and selectively breed them fpor purposes of vivisection.

Cromwell was the best monarch Britain ever had. He wasn't corrupt. he was poorer after ten year in power than he was when he took power, he believed in equality and he turned down the kingship when he was offered it. 
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Henry II, whose claims to land in France eventually resulted in the 100 Years War.
 Henry II's land claims in France (which were quite legitimate) had nothing to do with the Hundred Years War; the Hundred Years War had everything to do with Edward III's land claims in France (also equally legitimate).  
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Originally posted by capcartoonist

Henry VIII and Elizabeth I founded the modern UK.
The modern UK was founded in the reign of Queen Anne, not in the reigns of Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.
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Originally posted by capcartoonist

William III, whose antipathy towards Louis XIV gave us 125 years of conflict between UK and France which resulted in the Brits coming out as the dominant world power.  He, and Parliment, also gave us the English Bill of Rights (1689 or 1690 IIRC).
William III's antipathy towards Louis XIV was well-justified; after all, he was William III Prince of Orange long before he was William III King of England. After all, Louis XIV had invaded the Netherlands at the time (and Orange was a principality within the Netherlands).   
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[QUOTE=capcartoonist] However, neither of them founded the UK. That arose from the pure chance that Elizabeth I died childless and the nearest heir was already King of Scotland - which united the kingdoms into one country. 
The fact that James VI of Scotland became James I of England only resulted in a personal union, not a political union; political union did not come about until the reign of Queen Anne when Parliament passed the Act of Union in 1707.
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Originally posted by Infidel

What about Edward, the longshanks?


Which Edwards was this?  I thought he was Edwards III.
Edward I (1272-1307) was the Longshanks, who was famous for his wars against Scotland and Wales; Edward III (1327-1377), his grandson, was famous for his wars against France.

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