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Poll Question: Who is the greatest emperor from the Medes to the Sassians?
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169 [67.87%]
24 [9.64%]
18 [7.23%]
2 [0.80%]
19 [7.63%]
4 [1.61%]
8 [3.21%]
1 [0.40%]
2 [0.80%]
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    Posted: 08-Feb-2007 at 16:54
Hey if they actually "drowned" persepolis it probably deserved it. Who would take the time in drowning a city unless that city did something really really nasty?
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Originally posted by Ponce de Leon

Hey if they actually "drowned" persepolis it probably deserved it. Who would take the time in drowning a city unless that city did something really really nasty?
 
I can't understand your view. what do you mean by deserving to be drowned ?Question


Edited by sirius99 - 08-Feb-2007 at 17:11
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Hey the last post said the city was drowned so I am just taking his word for it
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The city was actually burned. And he did it because he was drunk, (or so the books say). It doesnt make sense to conquer an empire that big, have a city that magnificent as its capital, and then burn it to the ground. He wasn't damaging anybody but his own empire.
 
EDIT: I think Top Gun is confused. There is a damn being built in the Fars province of Iran which will form an artificial lake which will cover much (but not the part with Cyrus' tomb) of the ruins of Pasargade (not Persepolis).


Edited by Xshayathiya - 08-Feb-2007 at 22:04
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Dariush I the Great gets my vote. But wow, I did not expect so much votes for Cyrus .Shocked

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Why not? He is easily the most respected person in Iranian history among Iranians and non-Iranians alike.
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Cyrus the Great is considered to be the Father of Persia. Just like Genghis Khan is the Father of the Mongol Nation(Mongolia).
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Dariush the first made the empire great, rich, and maintain their land. Cyrus the Great conquered much of it and had a great military mind. But wether he would make the empire stay at a rich, powerful, and invincible point like Dariush did is a mystery
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I would have to say Cyrus the Great because without him, there would be no Persian Empire to begin with.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Apr-2007 at 19:54
Well, he wasn't called 'Cyrus the Ok'...or even 'Cyrus the Pretty Good'.
 
No, he was Cyrus the Great. Big%20smile
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I would say Ahmed Shah Abdali was the greatest ruler of all time...
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2007 at 03:22
I would agree about Abdali as well if he had planned a proper sucession. Incidentally who was the idiot who appointed Ranjit Singh as Gov of Lahore?
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mmm... I not sure if thats true..  can you confirm that(some kinda link) because last time I checked, Abdali made several raids against the bandit Sikhs who would flee on his arrival, and return on his departure.  I know, that possibly, some disgruntled members of the Afghan royal family may have assissted him but I dont think it came from Abdali to have placed him in such an important a lucrative location as Lahore guarding the Eastern border of the Afghan Empire.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2007 at 15:37
It was Zaman  Shah who made Ranjit Singh Gov of Lahore in 1799.
 
 
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wow sparten... thats an awesome link you provided.. who was zaman shah in relation to Abdali  (so.... im partially correct that it wasnt adbali who handed lahore over right?? lol!)
 
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Where's Alexander the Great? Big%20smile  He took Darius' titles after he conquered Persia.  He should be the greatest.
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Originally posted by Khashayarshah

Dariush the first made the empire great, rich, and maintain their land. Cyrus the Great conquered much of it and had a great military mind. But wether he would make the empire stay at a rich, powerful, and invincible point like Dariush did is a mystery
 
Thats a very good point. Darius The Great should definately be recognized for refounding the Achaemenid dynasty, reconquering all of the nations that were previously subjigated by Cyrus, as well as adding Cyrene, Thrace, Macedonia, and Southern India to the realm. Most importantly, he reorganized the empire by professionalizing the Persian government. He invented the Aryan alphabet, struck new coins, built royal roads, introduced the Babylonian calender(which is still in use), built large graneries for Persia's armies, which enabled the armies to be extremely large from then on. He built Persepolis and Susa, which replaced Pasargadae as the imperial capital, and a canal was also built in Egypt. His reign is said to have been the Golden Age of Persia, and most scholars agree that had he not reigned, the empire would have callapsed far sooner than it did.
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"Southern India"

I think you meant *Northern" India


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Originally posted by Penelope

Thats a very good point. Darius The Great should definately be recognized for refounding the Achaemenid dynasty, reconquering all of the nations that were previously subjigated by Cyrus, as well as adding Cyrene, Thrace, Macedonia, and Southern India to the realm. Most importantly, he reorganized the empire by professionalizing the Persian government. He invented the Aryan alphabet, struck new coins, built royal roads, introduced the Babylonian calender(which is still in use), built large graneries for Persia's armies, which enabled the armies to be extremely large from then on. He built Persepolis and Susa, which replaced Pasargadae as the imperial capital, and a canal was also built in Egypt. His reign is said to have been the Golden Age of Persia, and most scholars agree that had he not reigned, the empire would have callapsed far sooner than it did.
 
You're right. Cyrus the Great laid the foundations for the Achaemenid empire but it was Darius the Great who essentially built it. The Achaemenid empire's greatest weakness was its military inferiority to the Greeks. Had the Achaemenid's done more to develop their military tactics, armaments and infantry training in hand-to-hand combat history could have been very different. The organization and structure of the Achaemenid empire was already well in place thanks to Darius the Great. It was just the Achaemenid army which was always behind the better trained and better equipped Greeks.
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I have to say Cyrus the Great was the ultimate emperor though i shud be saying ardeshir...lol!!!
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