Iran�s losses during the Qajar dynasty!

well yea, i know that, but im talking as a whole.

teh qajars got really bad towards the end....

yes, iran was called iran for thousands of years.

@azimuth: yes, you are right my mistake, im sorry.

i mean, there was a time when iran could defeat the europeans head to head!

at the begining, during the safavids and the Qajars iran had a strong army that was up to european standards. infact, we defeated the british, the portugese, the russians before.

if the Qajars did not become corrupt, greedy, and uncaring, iran might have been able to stand a chance... but nope, they made the country really weak.

i guess you are right, all dynasties fall because at one point or other they become weak.

but still, every country has its bad dynasties, and for iran, the Qajars are it, however, there were some great Qajar kings.

and it think the pahlavis are the second worse, im not sure...

this was the ottoman empire before world war one:

our losses were just as bad as turkey's losses.

and i agree with zagros, the worst losses were the ones in the caucuses, the losses in the east were mostly desert territory and seemingly valueless for the most part.

but the north (cacuases region) was very important.

well, i dont think iran was in a position for military expansion anymore unless it was against the ottomans.

but think about it, desert or the resource rich caucasus???

that is why teh caucasus are more important.

what do you mean would have? are you talking about the part iran still has or about the part iran lost?