Biggest Empires

 

i got this map and other maps similar to this style from some web site which i forgot which one

i dont know how accurate that is

any way it shows how big was the Persian empire at 518 BC

 

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Originally posted by ramin Originally posted by azimuth what about the Abbasids Caliphate? , they were larger than the Macedonian That map of Abbasid Caliphate didn't last more than 16 years, so i don't think we can consider them in the largest empires.

it lasted way more than 12 years and why you dont think that it can not be consicered as one of the largest empires ?

the mecedonian Empire didnt last that long too and it is considered as one of the largest empire

i would say 95% of the land  of Alexander's Empire was under the Persians , so the persians did the Great acheivement and all alexander did is to beat them ( which is great too ) and changed the name from Persian to Macedonian Empire

 

 

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That is the map of the Persian Empire not the Iranian Empire, north of the Caspian sea and part of the Europe were also in the hands of other Iranian peoples such as Scythians and Sarmatians.

Originally posted by azimuth i got this map and other maps similar to this style from some web site which i forgot which one i dont know how accurate that is any way it shows how big was the Persian empire at 518 BC

this is a much more accurate map of "Persian Empire" than the one posted before.

Originally posted by azimuth it lasted way more than 12 years

well... I said 16 years! and maybe up to 20 -- not sure cuz I don't have much interest in their history.

Originally posted by azimuth and why you dont think that it can not be consicered as one of the largest empires ? the mecedonian Empire didnt last that long too and it is considered as one of the largest empire

not only Abbasid Caliphate didn't last long, also since its beginning there were rebellions all over the caliphate, esp in Iran. Abbasid Caliphs didn't taste much of peace in their short life.

Originally posted by azimuth i would say 95% of the land  of Alexander's Empire was under the Persians , so the persians did the Great acheivement and all alexander did is to beat them ( which is great too ) and changed the name from Persian to Macedonian Empire

true, that is pretty much correct, and remember Alexander fought only 4 battles to defeat Persian (Achaemenid) Empire; last one was in Gaugamela east of Babylon. So,  technically he didn't face Persians in more than 60% of the lands. 

Originally posted by ramin well... I said 16 years! and maybe up to 20 -- not sure cuz I don't have much interest in their history.

the correct number will be more than 100 years and that way much longer than the Macedonian

 

 

Originally posted by ramin Originally posted by azimuth the correct number will be more than 100 years and that way much longer than the Macedonian I thought we were talking about the biggest empires and that map of Abbasid Chaliphate.

yes we are

and that map of the Abbasid caliphate was at the time of Harun alrashid and the Abbasid caliphate was one of the biggest empires and was larger than the macedonian empire for  more than 100 years

after that their size decreased and stayed for more than 300 years decreasing untill their end when they only controled what is now iraq

 

The Mongols had the Greatest Land-Area Empire on Earth.  Period.  It's a fact.  I believe that is what the owner of this thread was asking for.

Originally posted by Imperatore Dario I Bah, the Mongols. Successful only for a time, and then disappeared from history. At least the British Empire continued to thrive, and the British continued to prosper, bringing so much of the world to its knees, and making her neighbors shake their legs. Comparing the British Empire to the Mongol Empire, in terms of power, influence, wealth, and culture, definately the British Empire is better!

All neighbours of Mongol empire feared from it.Did Pruss,France,Russian afraid from Brits?



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There has never been a very large Mongol empire, as far as I know Ilkhanid Mongols fought several times against Chagatai Mongols and there were certainly many other battles between other mongol khanates.

Originally posted by Hardel Originally posted by Imperatore Dario I Bah, the Mongols. Successful only for a time, and then disappeared from history. At least the British Empire continued to thrive, and the British continued to prosper, bringing so much of the world to its knees, and making her neighbors shake their legs. Comparing the British Empire to the Mongol Empire, in terms of power, influence, wealth, and culture, definately the British Empire is better! All neighbours of Mongol empire feared from it.Did Pruss,France,Russian afraid from Brits?

Actually many times it did. And after the mongols were your neighbours, there was nobody in those neighbouring lands to fear, only the Russians made a longer stand against the mongols.