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Topic: Post-Ice Age Flooding: Mediterranean and Black Seas Posted: 19-Mar-2006 at 09:22 |
The recent posts about Ice Age "civilizations" whose remains may be
submerged beneath the risen sea levels got me to thinking. There
are theories concerning how the Mediterranean and Black Seas got to
their present levels suggesting that they were once much lower and at
least temporarily closed off from the Atlantic Ocean and each
other. When the sea levels rose at the end of the most recent Ice
Age, it is theorized that first the Mediterranean, then the Black Sea
flooded when the natural dykes holding back the waters of the Atlantic
broke through. At least the inundation of the present Black Sea
is dated to within the past 12,000 - 10,000 years, and evidence of
submerged paleolithic settlements are pointed to there. But has
there been any evidence supporting an estimated date for the
Mediterranean?
A good part of this is important because of the submerged civilization
theory, plus some suggestions that the Great Flood may have had its
origins in the inundation of the Black Sea. Such as catastrophic
event would've left an impression on the hunter-gatherer tribes and
nascent settlements of the region that would circulate as legends well
into historic times. If the Mediterranean flood is true, could it
have left an even stronger impression on paleolithic culture which
survived as the Atlantis myth that Plato recorded?
Just my two
(Edit: "event" has a
"T"! T! T! T! [sfx of repeated head-banging] --
Yusaku Jon III, 09:22 EDT March 19th, 2006)
Edited by YusakuJon3
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Posted: 19-Mar-2006 at 18:32 |
Doesn't seem that whatever gradual evaquation of waters from the Black Sea to the Med that may have happened, would have caused any flood. Such an event would be gradual.
The Med was always connected to the Ocean but its levels, as those of the Atlantic were lower due to the fact that much water was just frozen in the Scandinavian and North American ice sheets.
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Posted: 22-Mar-2006 at 06:51 |
Wrong, the Med was flooded about 5 milion years ago. There are some who say it was then resealed and flooded again 34.000 years ago, but that IMHO is crock.
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Posted: 22-Mar-2006 at 09:36 |
You wrong: the Med was all the time connected to the Ocean. The depth of the Strait of Gibraltar is just too large to allow for any blockade of the channel without major tectonic modifications... that are not registered anywhere.
The only serious consideration about Gibraltar being passable is that it may have been less wide and even have some islands allowing a more easy "island hoping" for erectus and neanderthals. But this is very speculative. In any case the Med was all the time connected to the Ocean so far.
Some time in the future Gibraltar Strait will be compressed and the Med will become a salty lake like the Caspian Sea... but not so far.
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Posted: 26-Mar-2006 at 08:39 |
Another theory comes to mind when considering the knowledge of plate
tectonics and the changes it might've brought to the geography of this
planet over the period of millions of years. There used to
be a similar body of water known to modern geologists as
Tethys. At least until after the era following the great
extinction of the dinosaurs, this larger sea existed where much of the
Sahara Desert now exists and included what is now the Mediterranean and
the Indian Ocean, which was but part of a even broader ocean at the
time. Then the continents began to drift into their current
positions, and the sea floor which became northern Africa elevated
until it became exposed. Evidence of the ancient Tethys's
existence is borne out by fossils of ancestors of the modern whale and
porpoise dug out of the Sahara in Egypt, as well as a fish-eating
dinosaur found in even older rocks in Algeria. Some have seen the
Mediterranean as being a remnant of that ancient sea now open to the
oceans by that narrow strait in the west.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 03:19 |
That Tethys existed doesn't mean that the ancient soil of the Sahara was then under the water: it means that Africa and Eurasia were more separated then.
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Posted: 28-Mar-2006 at 19:59 |
And yet, the whale and dinosaur fossils were found in the interior of
north Africa, far from the shores of the Mediterranean. As the
sea level has also risen and fallen dramatically over periods of
several millions of years, parts of the continents were submerged at
one time or another. During the last Ice Age, the floors of the
Bering Sea, the English Channel and much of the sea bed surrounding the
Indonesian archepelago were exposed. Geologists are finding
evidence of the Arctic Sea being landlocked and being mostly freshwater
55 million years ago during a period of warm temperatures which
promoted the growth of water lilies there. Only 15 million years
before then, an inland sea existed on North America where the states of
Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana are today.
In fact, much of the continents as we know them today might have
originally been undersea bedrock laid down by the same volcanic
activity which continues around today's rift zones. These are
among the oldest rocks, often found at continental "cores" such as
northern Canada and Siberia. In the Himilayas, the impact of the
Indian subcontinental plate literally squeezed oceanic bedrock upwards
as part of the mountain range. Ultimately, the processes of
volcanism, erosion and sedimentation have added to the
continent-building process, giving us the sizable landlmasses that we
know in the present day.
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