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Topic: Sitchins theories Posted: 07-Nov-2004 at 06:31 |
What do you think about Sitchin's theories???
Do you agree with him, that Annunaki came from unexplored twelth planet and they built first civilisation ???
Maybe he thinks like Erich Daeniken, but I wish there must be a bit of truth in his establishing Sumer God's identities. Nowadays, Sitchin encounter obstacles, because people rather don't believe in paleoastronauts. Time of glory of his theories had subsided, fortunately or unfortunately. We are now more sceptic, but we still don't know more about Sumer Civilisation.
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Sharrukin
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Posted: 07-Nov-2004 at 21:34 |
I do not agree with his theories. He claims (despite the fact that he is no expert in cuneiform) to have interpreted Sumerian inscriptions correctly. That, right there, should give persons of healthy skepticism, justifiable doubt to his theories. Despite the consensual expertise of true cuneiform scholars, only he has the right interpretations? Much of what he interprets from pictures can be interpreted in other ways as well. Like van Daneken, he doesn't give humanity hardly any credit in its own development. He should be allocated to the realm of pop conspiracy theorist with a cult following. Nothing scholarly can be made from his claims.
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Posted: 10-Nov-2004 at 08:38 |
Originally posted by Sharrukin
I do not agree with his theories. He claims (despite the fact that he is no expert in cuneiform(?) to have interpreted Sumerian inscriptions correctly, adds doubt to his theories. beiing no cuneiform scholar, only he has the right interpretations? Much of what he interprets from pictures can be interpreted in other ways as well. Like Von Danikken allocated . Nothing scholarly can be made from his claims. |
I have got and read the pocketbook Title"The Gods or something?"some time ago. If these stories date AFTER 1000 bc than the"Annunaki"are the Greek:"Kanake"or proto-greeK "Hyksos" "ALALU" mKy be the greek hero"Hellen" the Story is about 3 generations of babylonian kings but it is not clear whether the Kassite-Dynasty is ment.
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Posted: 10-Nov-2004 at 22:48 |
The stories don't date from after 1000 BC but rather from before 2000 BC. Alulu? Do you mean Alulim of Eridu, the first king of Sumer? If so, he is already mentioned by 2000 BC in the Sumerian Kinglist. There is nothing to suggest that these names relate to anything Greek.
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Posted: 12-Nov-2004 at 18:35 |
'Chariots of the Gods', right? I'm in agreement with Sharrukin on
that. It reeks too much of 'kook' activity, much like the
Nostrodamus people and that fellow who came up with the argument that
the Moon missions were a government hoax.
Needless to say, such things have much staying power in certain circles...
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Posted: 14-Nov-2004 at 20:25 |
'Chariots of the Gods', right? |
Yes, Sitchin is the modern von Daniken. For a critique on his work, see
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchiniswrongcontentpage.htm
This just one of many sites which find scientific fallacy to his theories.
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Posted: 14-Nov-2004 at 23:23 |
I would also have to agree with Sharrukin and YusakuJonJ - Stichin represents the worst of pseudo-science and pseudo-history. His interpretations are erroneous - based on poor research and his concepts have no rational backing.
Personally - I fail to see why we need to believe that anyone else dabbled with our genes at all. I think that it is selling humanity short to think that we are not capable of evolving all on our own just as all life on the planet has.
The following are only a few of the sites that debunk - some more politely - some less - his theories.
http://skepdic.com/sitchin.html
http://www.mdep.org/SitchinErrors.html
http://www.truthbeknown.com/sitchin.htm
and this reather adamant page
http://www.mdep.org/SitchinErrors.html#VA243
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 04:32 |
The idea that aliens meddled with our genes is nothing new. It
reminds me of the pulp-fiction magazine covers of the 1940s and 1950s,
which showed tentacled aliens chasing earth's women. Usually the
covers had nothing to do with the stories inside, so it was never
explained why a creature resembling a lobster or an octopus would want
the same kind of women that an adolescent human male finds
attractive. Moreover, the aliens obviously have different
proteins, genes and sexual eqipment from us, but nobody ever explained
what they actually wanted to DO with those women.
Sitchin would have done better if he had written his stories of the Annunaki as science fiction, in my opinion.
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Posted: 09-Dec-2004 at 12:17 |
Eh, i rather thought von Daniken was amusing, maybe i'll give Sitchin ago just for a laugh.
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Posted: 09-Dec-2004 at 12:42 |
I vaguely remember reading something like the "foot print of the gods" or maybe "finger print of the gods", some dribble like that also rather amuzing.
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Posted: 12-Dec-2004 at 06:29 |
Cywr, I found Sitchin funnier. Remember what I said about how his
books should have gone on the science fiction rack in the typical
bookstore.
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Posted: 12-Dec-2004 at 06:54 |
Yes, I have to admit it *self-whipping sounds in the background*, once when I was young and naive I bought one of Daineken's books. It was called "the 2nd coming is already here" or something like it, but I swear to you I didn't know what it was all about, I just liked the cover
It took me only a few pages to realize that it was bullsh*t but I still read it to the (bitter) end. Ok, I finally got it out of my chest!
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Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 05:17 |
In my opinion, Zecharia Sitchin made some real research, that was his job, and he made comment on the Sumerian scriptures wrongly in purpose to prove the history in the Old Testament. So it was his biggest mistake. He tried to show ecerything and improvement of our ancestors as the Marduk Gods' failure...
He only took Sumerians as the first civilized men but he didn't really research about the more ancient civilizations that we have almost any information about...
I think he knew he was wrong about some scriptures but Sumerian scriptures were only his false witness to prove the reality of Old Testament. It is true that our knowledge of ancient history and our genetical origins is still a shame for most humans because of misinformation emposed to us but to reach the true knowledge isnt possible with a man's books that are totally written with sided knowledge...
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 19:31 |
Funny, another coast to coast am guest with Art Bell or George Noory. You have to take most coast to coast guests with a grain of salt but I still love the show.
www.coasttocoastam.com catch it online!!
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