Who are the five greatest generals of all time?

Originally posted by k�roglu 1. MUSTAFA 2. KEMAL 3. ATAT�RK

Ha-ha.  Where did you forgot Ismet Inonu and Kazim Karabekir?

Edited by The Chargemaster

Every culture has a few stand out generals of their history .Comparing relatively is too hard to compare.From the west Alexander the great, is the most likely candidiate.China's have many good generals too but li shi min could be their top one.Turko -Mongol have so many great generals its hard to say ,it shard to determine wether they are good generals when commanding great armies they had.Genghis khan was a great emperor ,strategican and leader Subotai was more of a feild battle tactician great.From Arabia Khalid al walid is probaly their top, Jaladin and Baibars come to mind.

1. Janos(John) Hunyadi (1387 - 1456)

2. Toyotomi Hideyoshi (1536 - 1598)

3. Napoleon Bonaparte (15.08.1769 - 5.05.1821)

4. Julius Caeser (100 - 44 BC)

5. Saladin(Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayub) (1138 - 1193)

Atilla, Genghis Khan and Timur were three bloodthirsty monsters, with very big armies of ferocious creatures. This is my opinion.

I think that the top five generals of all time are:

My five greatest general of all time in no particular order is;

1. Alexander the Great
2. Han Xin
3. Hannibal Barca
4. Yuan Chonghuan
5. Julius Ceaser

Many others too but these are my favorite so far

Originally posted by Dodgeballer Another thing the reason hannible isn't up in my five is he knew how to win a battle but was poor at using his victories.

I'm afraid thats a misconception, this thread deals with the issue of Hannibals strategic ability with a focus on why he did not march on Rome:  http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18816

Originally posted by larspeart 1300 (and 1,000 were non-reliable mercs)

To my knowledge there were no mercenaries on the Greek side at Thermopylae, aside from the Helot slaves I believe virtually all troops were standard greek citizen soldiers sent by thier state. furtheremore there were initially many times more than 1300 and even after Leonidas dissmissed most of his army there was more than this number. on a final note all seven hundred Thespian soldiers fought to the death willingly alongside the 300 spartens......... I would call that pretty reliable.

Regards, Praetor.



Edited by Praetor - 24-May-2007 at 08:00

Originally posted by Jagiello I am ammaised how subjective some turkish members can be.To put turks in all 5 places!I wouldn't put even one.If we're going to be nationalistic i'm going to ask where's Sobieski?Noone put him even in the 10th?He beat the sh*t out of the turks during the polish-ottoman wars in Moldavia and then practicaly saved Europe at Vien 1683.   Seriously.... my top 5 are:   1.Napoleon 2.Ceasar 3.Charlemagne 4.Hannibal 5.Alexander ......... 10.Sobieski

you are subjective too..all them from aryan(white) nation and your words are anti-turk.btw i bet that you are a stormfront member or something.


Edited by the_oz - 26-May-2007 at 14:20

Originally posted by Jagiello And what is a stormfront member?

Im guessing some sort of racial clan...

Originally posted by Jagiello I am ammaised how subjective some turkish members can be.To put turks in all 5 places!I wouldn't put even one.If we're going to be nationalistic i'm going to ask where's Sobieski?Noone put him even in the 10th?He beat the sh*t out of the turks during the polish-ottoman wars in Moldavia and then practicaly saved Europe at Vien 1683.

As this post was unprovoked, and unnecessary. It has earned Jagiello an official warning for Trolling amongst other violations.

Originally posted by Jagiello "all of them are white"!And that makes me subjective?You can say that all of them are human and that makes me subjective.Or they are all man and not women and that makes me anti-feminist.I didn't pay attention to their color of skin,and btw-Hannibal was pretty dark. And what is a stormfront member?

so dont consider turkish forumers subjective if they post turkic generals.you are posting european/aryan generals because you are european,turks are posting turko-mongolian generals because they are turks.there is no difference between them and you.

btw Hannibal is a phoenician which is considered an aryan nation(at least panf considers even thought they speak a semitic language).I dont mention his skin colour but his nation.


Edited by the_oz - 27-May-2007 at 05:10