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    Posted: 05-Jan-2005 at 21:36
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"The crime rate in Turkey is low compared to more industrialized countries. An analysis was done using INTERPOL data for Turkey."

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Haha, maybe if you don't include the crime rate in the Kurdish areas of turkey, or the murders done there.

 and can somebody answer my question??

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Cartographers Redrawing Maps After Tsunami

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By KATHERINE PFLEGER SHRADER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Water depths in parts of the Straits of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels off the coast of Sumatra, reached about 4,000 feet before last month's tsunami. Now, reports are coming in of just 100 feet too dangerous for shipping, if proved true.


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A U.S. spy imagery agency is working around the clock to gather information, warn mariners and begin the time-consuming task of recharting altered coastlines and ports throughout the region.


Officials at the Bethesda, Md.-based National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency say the efforts will take international cooperation over months, if not years.


Thousands of navigational aides, such as buoys held in place by mushroom-shaped anchors, were carried off to new locations by 50-foot to 100-foot waves. Old shipwrecks marked on charts have been relocated, joined by new wrecks that will have to be salvaged, moved or charted.


But there might be a silver lining in the devastation.


"Maybe there's less pirates now," says Peter Doherty, who works at the agency and is chairman for the International Hydrographic Organization's commission that sends out radio navigational warnings.


He and others are hoping that the waves carried away the modern-day Blackbeards. These thieves trolled the waters in high-speed boats, armed with guns, knives and grappling hooks, which they used to climb the sides of ships to steal them and their goods.


Just how different the ocean floor looks remains largely a mystery. The bulk of the tsunami recovery effort has gone toward humanitarian relief. Gradually, however, attention will turn to what it will take to make the region's waters safe. Among the first priorities will be making the channels safe for relief shipments.


The U.S. agency, which analyzes spy satellite imagery and produces maps and charts for the Defense Department, has so far sent out two tsunami-related warnings on a Pentagon (news - web sites) messaging system and made them available publicly on its own Web site.


Ports of call may be heavily damaged "to include unknown new bottom configurations, ship wrecks, shoreline changes and depth limitations," according to a warning from Dec. 29.


"In addition," the notice said, "aids to navigation may be damaged, inoperable, off station or even destroyed. ... Proceed with extreme caution."


The agency has received an unconfirmed report that one area of the Strait of Malacca, which divides Malaysia and the devastated Indonesian island of Sumatra, had its depth cut from 4,060 feet to just 105 feet.


In another area of tsunami-effected waters, a merchant marine ship has logged that the depth was cut from 3,855 feet to just 92 feet.


The agency's chief hydrographer, Chris Andreasen, said experts may find that whole channels were moved by the earthquake that preceded the tsunami, shifting the ocean floor many feet, rather than the inches seen during the 1989 California quake during the World Series (news - web sites).


"When the plate moves, everything on it moves," Andreasen said. "There could be some pretty serious shifts."


Warnings about the new oceanic landscape go out right away. But the agency waits to update its charts until it gets final confirmation.


Among other international operations, the Navy is sending two ships to begin efforts to rechart the waters. One, the USNS John McDonnell, could arrive by next week.

   



It is expected to be followed by the newer USNS Mary Sears, which is awaiting final orders to head out from Japan. On board will be sonar, a dozen scientists and 34-foot vessels used to rechart the shipping channels.

The initial goal is not to study every square foot, but to understand what happened to the channels so the ports can be used to deliver relief supplies. Now, helicopters and airplanes are the primary means, said Capt. Jeffrey Best, commanding officer at the Naval Oceanographic Office at Stennis Space Center in Mississippi.

The Navy does not know what it will find. "We may have buildings or buses in the channels of the harbors," Best said.

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Originally posted by Jalisco Lancer



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Please stick to the original topic.

Excuse me  but I think my question is about the topic.

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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jan-2005 at 20:45
Christcrusader, seismologist said they detected the quake but without scales in the Indian Ocean, they had no way to know if it would cause waves that would be a threat. The infrastructure to detect and warn like the Pacific where over 90% of quakes happen, was not set up there.
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  Quote John Doe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jan-2005 at 22:57
World leaders pledge $5bn aid
by Patrick Walters
January 7, 2005

JOHN Howard was hailed by world leaders yesterday for spearheading the international push to rebuild the dozen nations shattered by the Boxing Day tsunamis that left 150,000 people dead and razed countless coastal towns.

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Leaders meeting in Jakarta pledged an unprecedented $US5billion ($6.6billion) to an international relief and reconstruction program for the nations hit by the earthquake and the subsequent tsunamis.

As the World Health Organisation warned disease could kill a further 300,000 people in the hardest-hit areas, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan launched an urgent appeal for $US977 million in cash for emergency relief over the next six months.

The Jakarta gathering endorsed the UN's role as the leader of the international relief effort.

Mr Annan said the UN would appoint a special co-ordinator to help manage the flow of humanitarian aid.

The Prime Minister received an ovation from the summit when he outlined Australia's $1billion plan for a joint reconstruction and development commission with Indonesia, a contribution that put Australia at the top of the list of international donors.

"No natural disaster in my lifetime has moved and touched the people of my country as much as the disaster that has brought all of us together," Mr Howard said.

He said the Australian contribution was a token of the compassion and concern of the Australian people.

"There's an old saying in the English language, isn't there, that charity belongs at home. Our home is this region," he said later in a television interview. "And we are saying to the people of our nearest neighbour that we are here to help you in your hour of need."

Unlike other donor countries, Australia's $1billion package for Indonesia will be jointly administered by the two countries without UN involvement.

"The only way that we can deliver this aid effectively is (bilaterally) and we are not going to deliver it through an international agency,"' Mr Howard said.

US Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed the UN's lead co-ordination role, announcing that the "core group" of nations including Australia, the US, Japan and India set up in the wake of the disaster would be disbanded.

Singapore's Prime Minister, Lee Hsien Loong, also backed a lead co-ordination role for the UN, saying that despite its limitations the UN was the global organisation best placed to see that the political will for longer-term reconstruction was maintained.

"Millions in Asia, Africa, and even in far away countries, are suffering unimaginable trauma and psychological wounds that will take a long time to heal," Mr Annan said in his opening statement to the tsunami meeting.

"It seems at times like a nightmare from which we are still hoping to awaken -- except that for millions of people in 12 affected countries and for tens of thousands of visitors from 40 nations around the world, this nightmare is devastatingly real."

Heads of government and key multilateral organisations including the UN, World Bank and Asian Development Bank gathered in Jakarta's huge convention centre yesterday, vowing to provide both emergency aid and long-term reconstruction funds.

They also resolved to take immediate action to establish a tsunami warning centre for the Indian Ocean area, while Association of South East Asian Nations leaders will push ahead with a new security mechanism aimed at deploying military as well as civilian assets to help regional disaster relief.

The unique gathering of leaders from 26 nations and international organisations, chaired by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, took place amid extremely tight security with thousands of troops guarding the conference venue.

"It means that you care and you care deeply," Mr Yudhoyono said when welcoming the delegates, which included Mr Powell, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, and EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.

Mr Howard, who late on Wednesday announced the largest individual donation of any country to tsunami relief in Indonesia, sat at one end of a long rectangular table close to the Indonesian leader.

With Mr Annan beside him, Mr Yudhoyono said media coverage of the disaster had only provided a "small sampling" of the painful realities of what he called the most destructive natural disaster in living memory.

"When the crisis has passed, let us not go back to business as usual, only to become a solid community again when another disaster strikes," he said.

Mr Annan urged donor countries to convert pledges quickly into cash. He said the UN would need $US229million for food and agriculture over the next six months as well as $US222million for shelter and other non-food items.

"We do know that at least half a million people were injured; that more than a million people are displaced; that nearly two million people need food aid; and that many more need water, sanitation and healthcare," the UN chief said.

Countries such as Japan will press ahead with debt relief, offering a moratorium on repayments of the $US22billion it owes.

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Good to see my taxes are being put to good use, I think by avoiding the UN, we should be able to save about $100 million on "overheads" and other "beaurocratic nonsense".


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thanks for answerin my question.
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Before and after pics of the Banda Aceh region - here

All i can say is .
Arrrgh!!"
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BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - Malaria could kill up to 100,000 people in coming months across Indian Ocean communities devastated by the Dec. 26 tsunami if authorities do not quickly move to kill mosquitoes, a health expert warned Thursday.


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Health agencies were planning to launch a massive spraying campaign in Indonesia the hardest-hit country on Friday to kill mosquitoes that carry the disease, said Richard Allan, director of the Mentor Initiative, the aid group leading the malaria campaign in Indonesia.


"The 150,000 extra deaths from disease that the WHO predicts could occur ... is very plausible," Allan said, referring to a World Health Organization (news - web sites) prediction of the number of disease deaths that could follow the tsunami if precautions are not taken. "Up to three quarters of those deaths could be from malaria."


"The combination of the tsunami and the rains are creating the largest single set of (mosquito) breeding sites that Indonesia has ever seen in its history," he said.


Tsunami survivors will be highly vulnerable to the mosquito-borne illness, Allan said, warning that 100,000 could die across the tsunami-hit zone that stretches across a dozen countries from Indonesia to Sri Lanka, India and as far away as Africa's eastern coast.


"They are stressed. They've got multiple infections already and their immune systems are weakened," Allan said. "Any immunity they had is gone."


WHO said Thursday that seven cases of malaria have been confirmed in the disaster zone in Indonesia, where the Dec. 26 earthquake and tsunami killed more than 110,000.


The cases are showing up now because the malaria season is just beginning and detection systems have been put in place in the last few days to monitor post-tsunami outbreaks.


Health workers will battle malaria by walking house-to-house fumigating all the neighborhoods of Banda Aceh, the capital of Aceh province, where the devastation is worst, officials said. The operation kicks off Friday.


Tents in refugee camps around the city also will be sprayed.


In communities along the west coast of Sumatra, where almost all buildings were wiped out, the main defense will be pesticide-impregnated plastic sheeting, which villagers use for shelter.


Cholera, dysentery, typhoid and other waterborne diseases usually tend to spring up in the days immediately after a disaster when clean water is scarce. These diseases, which can be deadly, often come from drinking water contaminated with feces.


"So far, we seem to have largely escaped" the threat of those diseases, Allan said.


But he added, "The risk never goes, but it diminishes."
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 The title should be changed.
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  Quote warlord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jan-2005 at 02:07
Originally posted by Christscrusader

and can somebody answer my question??

Earthquakes can result in Tsunamis. So nations near the site of the earthquake should have taken precautions. But this is, from what I hear, a very rare occurence in the South-east Asia.

But it seems the state govt of the Western Indian state of Gujarat,which is the only state in India to have a proper disaster-management system, did predict the tsunami. But no one took them seriously. And the warning itself was probably too late.

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Originally posted by warlord

But it seems the state govt of the Western Indian state of Gujarat,which is the only state in India to have a proper disaster-management system, did predict the tsunami. But no one took them seriously. And the warning itself was probably too late.


Some Thai seismologic institute predicted it as well. but they didn't make it public, because they may have been forced to close if it would have been false alarm
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  Quote pytheas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 01:54
Watching MSMBC right now.  They are holding an all-star fund raiser including Jay Leno, Brad Pitt, Goldie Hann, Elton John, Danny DeVito and so many more trying to help raise money for the tsunami victims.  1-800-HELP-NOW, (through the Red Cross) is the phone numer if anyone can aford to, they should think about helping, whether through this organization or others. 
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  Quote demon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 07:36

All I can hope is 2 things

1.  That the survivors live as much as they can.  No time to remorse for the dead.  They are dead, dead, dead.  And the living are striving for better sanitation, food, clean water, etc.  Hope the donations contribute much.

2.  Politics collaborate in this.  If those politics manage to buy another porshe or bride's shoe with the money donated, I'd be really disappointed.  The money was sent to save the perilous, not to enrich the rich. 

I don't want this global disaster to turn into another Congo famine campaign in which politics stole virtually everything

Grrr..
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  Quote warlord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 02:39

I think you guys are too kind. Thousands died in India, and I haven't donated a single rupee. Most of charity is corruption anyway.

Aimless charity is, in my view unethical. It just keeps human populations high, thereby depleting the planet's resources. One's primary loyalty should be to the environment, not the fellow-human being.

These "natural" disasters are increasingly man-made. The more drilling, deforestation, quarrying that happens the more earthquakes we will have.

So let humans die. The planet will live.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 17:08
Hmmm
Do I notice social darwinism?
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Warlord, you're from Kerala, aren't you?
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  Quote dark_one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 18:44
 India is not going to suffer fromt he loss of 6,000 people out of a billion and a half.
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  Quote Kubrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 19:18
Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

Hmmm
Do I notice social darwinism?


Mother Earth's immune system, rather, as I understood him (unless I am misinterpreting social darwinism).
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  Quote warlord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jan-2005 at 02:46

Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

Hmmm
Do I notice social darwinism?

No. But both could be related.

I believe the planet can be seen as a single organism. There is a balance of elements in it, like there is in any living organism. If that balance is disturbed, the system collapses, and may take self-stabilising action.

Human beings are developing like a cancerous mass. And the planet can take it no more.

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