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Topic: Do Greeks looks like Persians? Posted: 04-Jan-2006 at 13:10 |
TeldeIndus, sorry i'm curious, why do you put the word "Telde-" in your nickname?
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Posted: 04-Jan-2006 at 21:08 |
This one works, thanks.
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Posted: 05-Jan-2006 at 00:04 |
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TeldeIndus, sorry i'm curious, why do you put the word "Telde-" in your nickname? |
Hi Ikki, It's two words in Pashto (language spoken in NWFP province in Pakistan). Tel (always) and de (from), sometimes it's translated as forever, so it doesnt make much sense and I didnt give it much thought to be honest
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Posted: 05-Jan-2006 at 05:45 |
OK. Telde is the city where i live in Canary Islands, is a berber word
and possibly mean "the fertile" but isn't clear. I know another region
with that name in the Atlas mountain and when i see your nick i thought
"wonderful, another Telde but in the middle of Asia"
I don't like the indouropean theory, but, do you know? In spanish the word "de" mean "from"
bye
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Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 22:56 |
It is impossible to say Greeks look like Persians and persians look like greeks.. In this day and age there has been soo much mixing of populations that the line between ethnicities is become blurred. I have seen many iranians that look -arabic/ greek/ mongolid/ turkic/ and ofcourse persian. . But in a way when i look at some greeks they look persian aswell.
Many people ask us iranians in Australia if we are greek or italian, and it is the same for all other meditereanean looking peoples, but i think us iranians can easily tell, also greeks aswell can tell the difference. Although the difference is not easy to tell as say between greeks and sweedes. But it is there non the less. . .
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Posted: 15-Jan-2006 at 05:25 |
When I was in Iran, I visited an old Armenian church (I can't remember if it was in Isfahan of Shiraz - it was the one with the famous wall paintings and the Genocide museum next to it). I was there with a Finnish lady and after the church we visited the museum. There a young Armenian guy saw as and asked the lady where she's from, afterwards he turned to me and said "you must be Greek!". I still can't figure it out how could he tell...
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Posted: 15-Jan-2006 at 06:06 |
Same here too but it whas little bit foolish I whas stopped in Hungary for a break while i whas going to Turkey, so i went to a wall market out there and bought some thing etc. When ive try to enter my car someone called me in Turkish, the same "i asked how did you know i whas Turkish?" he replyed "dont act foolish you have a T-shirt with Turkish flag sticked on it..."
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Posted: 19-Jan-2006 at 14:54 |
It's probably just because of all the population movements and mixing over the centuries. The farther south you go in the Balkans, the shorter and darker people seem to get. |
I come from the closest and most southern point before entering Greece and I have to say this is not true. I myself am 6'5 and the average family member on my fathers side is 6'. My mothers side has Greek mixture and even so they are on average(mostly females) about 5'7. Of all the family members only my cousin falls into the Balkan stereotype of short and dark skinned. If you go to areas of Korca or even in Saranda in Albania you will still find many light skinned and tall people. Ofcourse the height is recent since for much of the areas history it has been agriculturally based. Same with the greeks I know who have been raised in the metropolitan Greek enviroment. They are rather tall on average(will in 6 feet).
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Posted: 19-Jan-2006 at 15:09 |
Originally posted by DayI
Same here too but it whas little bit foolish I whas stopped in Hungary for a break while i whas going to Turkey, so i went to a wall market out there and bought some thing etc. When ive try to enter my car someone called me in Turkish, the same "i asked how did you know i whas Turkish?" he replyed "dont act foolish you have a T-shirt with Turkish flag sticked on it..."
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Posted: 19-Jan-2006 at 17:59 |
Where are the pics? ...
I'd say a little, but not much. Are we talking about the Hellenic Age?
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Posted: 19-Jan-2006 at 18:14 |
Here: http://www.hackneys.com/alex_web/graphics/mosaic.jpg
u can see alexander chasing darius - they have same complexion. this was drawn not long after the battle (13 years after Alexander's death apparently)
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Posted: 24-Jan-2006 at 04:55 |
You know that the climate has an impact on the configuration of the phenotype of a nation. All the mediterranean populations since the ancient times tended to be darker. In addition the man has developed, has become higher. It's a natural procedure. Actually we don't look like Italians so much. I think that we have lighter skin than them.
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Posted: 24-Jan-2006 at 11:22 |
Italian are dinaric based, so their faces tend to look "harder" then that of Greeks. Its one of the most obvious things them trying to compare Italians and Greeks. Its not just lighter skin, Italians differ greatly and I have seen other Greeks that far exceed Italians. It is that main factor that I mentioned above.
The "hard" face is also apparent in Albs.
Not in my family though, one Greek grandmother completely left my family a race of soft and smooth skinned babyfaces.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 03:33 |
you would have to be specific on what part of italy your comparing
with. From what ive seen calabrians are shortish and pretty dark, with
northern italians much fairer at the other end.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 12:35 |
greeks are on average taller than both northern and southern italians
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 14:29 |
Some of those Italians who live in the Northern border regions (Alps) don't have any Mediterranean look what so ever.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 16:43 |
Originally posted by hansel
greeks are on average taller than both northern and southern italians |
I would not be too sure about that... I think they more pretty similar in height.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 18:05 |
Some of those Italians who live in the Northern border regions (Alps) don't have any Mediterranean look what so ever. |
Because if we look at it classicaly. Northern italy was inhabited by the Gaul. I would agree that northern italians look far more like French then their southern counterparts.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 18:24 |
Originally posted by Theodore Felix
Some of those Italians who live in the
Northern border regions (Alps) don't have any Mediterranean look what
so ever. |
Because if we look at it classicaly. Northern italy was inhabited
by the Gaul. I would agree that northern italians look far more like
French then their southern counterparts. |
Well, all original Italians came from Southern France in the
Paleolithic, then in the Neolithic they suffered new waves of peoples
from the Balcans and particularly the Aegean region, a trend that
continued till historic times. Therefore any genetic table will tell
you that Italians are a mix of Western Europeans with Aegean and also
some Balcanic elements. The Aegean presence is obviously much stronger
in the south while almost non-existent in the north.
The historical influx of Celts is probably not very relevant.
A exception is Sardinia, that with Corsica was settled mostly in
Neolithic times being before virgin territory. They are one of the most
anomalous groups in European genetics, together with Lapps.
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Posted: 20-Apr-2006 at 14:29 |
The similarity between Greeks, Anatolians, and Persins is probably a result of the Gravettian and Neolithic expansions.
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