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Topic: What did our ancestors do during WWII? Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 11:57 |
i guess they mean their Grand parents participation in WWII,
it might not apply to many AE members who were old enough to be there in WWII times or their fathers
for example my father was around 10 years old during WWII and and he remembers seeing British soliders passing by Arabia from India to Europe. also those years were one of the hardest years that trade to and from India were restricted.
almost 20% or more of that area's ( UAE today) population died from a sickness that spread during that period.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 12:21 |
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Have you ever written down what he told you? Or perhaps gotten a tape recorder and taped him? That would be a valuable piece of historical information for Albania and all the world. |
I still didnt write anything, but me and my father videorecorded him telling stories (during the past 10 years, but not in the last year, he refused to be recorded this last year.). Anyway, most of the tales are a mix of personal memories and of historical facts. Probably it will make a nice book, but not an academical history text. But I ll wait to read his diaries (although I hope that day to be as late as possible).
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 13:05 |
And here are pics of my grandfather in Polish and German uniform:
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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 13:59 |
he looks better in Polish uniform :)
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 14:09 |
Paternal grandfather LtColonel in the Royal Engineers fought in Italy, maternal grandfather on a minesweeper (in RNR) in ww2 but had fought in ww1 as a midshipman at Jutland.
Had a great uncle in the tanks at El Alemain and another couple of uncles in the navy that I know of.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 14:14 |
Originally posted by ataman
he looks better in Polish uniform :) |
I have always thought the Polish army uniform was good looking.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 14:16 |
well, he didnt have any choice, in fact he was in situation that he could not refuse... and almost lost his life on the eastern front
In his company was about 30 Poles but only my grandfather was called by the Germans "verfluchte Pole"
Edited by Mosquito - 20-Jul-2006 at 14:19
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 16:16 |
My grandfather was a wwI vet, my dad was in the Coast Guard, assigned to the Amphibious landing Forces in the Pacific. His ship was involved in the landings at both Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
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Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 16:19 |
My grandfathers & grandmothers were 7 - 13 years old in the time of the WW2. Their parents were peaceful villagers in Bulgaria. They keep nice memories about the german soldiers they saw around 1941 - 1944 - they said: the germans were nice people who always give to the kids a chocolate, sweetmeat/pastry and some little gifts of that sort.
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Posted: 21-Jul-2006 at 14:39 |
the germans were nice people who always give to the kids a chocolate, sweetmeat/pastry and some little gifts of that sort. |
A few kilomatres to the west the Germans were executing children in Serbian schools, as retaliation for guerilla attacks.
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Posted: 21-Jul-2006 at 17:05 |
unlike Bulgarians, Serbs were not allies of Germans...
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Posted: 21-Jul-2006 at 22:40 |
Originally posted by Mosquito
well, he didnt have any choice, in fact he was in situation that he could not refuse... and almost lost his life on the eastern front
In his company was about 30 Poles but only my grandfather was called by the Germans "verfluchte Pole" |
Too bad he couldn't have surrendered to the Russians, if only he had been assigned to the West he could have surrendered pretty easily.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2006 at 00:21 |
My Familys history in WWII goes as
Both Grand fathers were in Burma. My paternal Grandfather was also in Europe for a while but saw no action there, but in Burma he flew C-47's. My maternal Grand father joined up in Jan 1945 as an Engineer.
I had two Great uncles in Singapore, one was taken POW (and is thankfully still alive), the other was killed and I am named after him.
A third Great Uncle had the wierdest war, he had joined the British Army as a youngster (despite being Afghan I wonder how). He and a few others were sent to Poland just before the invasion to help evacaute British Embassy Staff and Citizens. He then served in France for 5, before being evacuated at Dunkirk. Then sent to N Africa, he served there (and got a Kings Commission) before being sent to the Eastern Front to help train Russians in Anti tank tactics (especially WRT Tigers), and managed to see Kursk. He then went back in time to serve in Scicily and Italy, before returning to France for D Day (Gold Beach), until the capture of Paris, and then was transfered to Burma for the duration. And for some reason I have never quite understood he was at Pearl Harbor when the japanese surrendered.
He was ordered to Tokyo bay and then was in the BCOF.
Despite all the fighting for 6 years, he emerged from the war unscrathed. My maternal Grandfather, served for only 6 months and was wounded three times.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2006 at 01:23 |
Originally posted by xristar
A few kilomatres to the west the Germans were executing children in Serbian schools, as retaliation for guerilla attacks. |
I know. In Bulgaria also were located many kommunistic guerilla groups, but not in the region, where my Grand-parents were living.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 07:10 |
My grandfather on parental side during WWII was a Colonel of fighting aviation (or to be exact - he became Colonel in 1943).
He fought almost in all the parts of the front: in the beginning of the war - in the Western Ukraine; then - on Leningrad front; later - on the Central front (He took part in the Kursk battle, after which he got the rank of Colonel. BTW he was 24 years old then.); then he fought in Romania,then - Hungary, later - in Slovakia (I mean the territory of the modern state), then - in Austria, and at the end of the war - in Czechia.
He was wounded several times, made 451 battle-flight, shook down 34 enemy aircrafts, got the order of the Heroe of SU.
He successfully survived the war, married, had five children and eleven grandchildren.
My greatgrandfather on maternal side fought in the infantry on Leningrad front till February 1944 when he was killed.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 07:56 |
None of my grandfathers waged war. But my paternal great grandfather was taken into the Soviet army after the 1940 occupation. He was given a birch stick(i've told this story before) and was sent out as a scout, but the first sight of the Wehrmacht made him drop his stick and surrender to the rifled Germans. He spent most of the time during the war in a prison camp i think. His brother emigrated to Canada and worked as a miner for 32 years there. He died just this April. I never spoke a word with him. And my grandmother speaks well of the Germans too. They never took anything, they traded goods and threw in some smiles for the kids. My grandmothers brother disappeared in the war. He was in the German army. Maybe perished in the Czech hell, maybe went insane and forgot who he was. My father still reads all the credits after movies end, he thinks he will find his name as he thinks that he might have fled Estonia to the US or Canada and i now working somewhere (in the motion picure business for some reason ) without the knowledge of our existence. Makes you wonder who is sane, the guy who fought in WW2 or the one sitting behind a TV looking for his uncles name. My grandmother once told me that during the war she could smell burning flesh coming from the seaside. She was on the road to town, the same road i take every day myself. The Germans burnt Jews there by the sea and there is a Jewish memorial there, to my own surprise. There's really a kinda gag reflex in the stomach to it when you hear such activities happened just some 3 or 4 miles from your house.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2006 at 13:36 |
Originally posted by Komnenos
Promise not to hold it against me:
One grandfather was a pre-1933 Nazi Party and SA member, he had a
wonky leg and spend most of the war as translator ( he spoke Polish and
Russian) on the Eastern Front. At the end, he volunteerd for action and was killed near Arnheim
in Holland where is buried as well. I've never visited his grave,
although I pass by three or four times a year!
The other one was a German civil servant and thus a compulsory, but
un-enthusiastic party member. Just before he was supposed to join the
Wehrmacht, he was badly injured during one of the first bomb raids on
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Was your grandfather born in Upper Silesia? If he could speak Polish, it's quite probable that he was.
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Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 23:17 |
My American grand-father had a heavy construction company and spent the war helping build naval facilities throughout the Puget sound region.
My Canadian grandfather was in his forties when WW II started and a veteran of WW I. He re-enlisted in 1940 and spent the war training soldiers in Vernon B.C.
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Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 05:12 |
Both my grandfathers fought at the Greek-Albanian frontier against the invading Italians from 28th October 1940. Father's side grandpa,was serving at the Cavalry.Followed the march into southern Albania/Northern Epirus :Tepeleni,Argyrokastro..inner. Mother's side:Korytsa,wounded on the mountain Tomori by a bullet that passed near his ear and head.(he couldnt hear well from this ear ) Transfered to the hospital in Athens in end of March 1941. When Germans invaded by Yugoslavia he came back to his village in Macedonia. The other grandfather of mine went to his village from Albania to Chalkidiki/Macedonia on foot!*thats about 500 km through mountains) During the occupation both were living at their villages-suffering by hunger (although the situation was much better than the urban areas). One's village was under German occupation. The other's under Bulgarians (eastern macedonia). -(it was given to the Bulgarians by the Nazi's as a reward for their alliance)
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Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 17:35 |
Both my grandfathers fought at the Greek albanian frontier againts the Italian and albanian invanders.
From my mother's side:
My grandfanter died there with his brothers (from the 5 brothers only 1 survived)
From my father's side:
My grandfather fought in albania and later in north Afrika, he died there.
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