Originally posted by poirot
2. The Ming helped Joeson during the Imjin Wars. The Ming commander, Li Rusong, son of Li Chengliang, had Korean blood. Despite some looting certain Ming troops in Korea, the official stance was of a unified front of Ming and Joeson.
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Wow, I didn't know Li Rusong had Korean blood and also he was a son of Li Chengliang.
Now that's gotta be the same Li Chengliang who abandoned Nurhaci's father Taksi and grandfather Giocangga because he thought they mutinied against his command to support Nikan Wailan and instead helped Atai who was their relative, right? And when they lost Nikan Wailan killed both of them.
Also when they say Nurhaci was the Ming's hostage when he was young, is that mean he was kept under Li Chengliang himself or kept in Beijing?
Also did Nurhaci ever try to take revenge on Li Chengliang or Li Rusong for his father, grandfather and uncle's death? That would make sense.
What a feud between two families for three generations, hah!
Wiki says Li Chengliang had nine sons and five became full generals and the other four became accompanying generals for Ming. One of them was Li Rusong's younger brother Li Rubai who also fought in Imjin War and then fought Nurhaci but lost in Sarhu and killed himself.
So with that information, it would be very hard to imagine that Nurhaci and Li brothers fought in the same side during the Imjin war.
Also wiki says Li Chengliang was a Korean descent but Li Rusong was a Korean and Jurchen descent. Maybe Li chengliang married a Jurchen woman?
Edited by King Kang of Mu - 14-Jun-2008 at 05:53