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    Posted: 04-Apr-2007 at 13:15
Originally posted by The Hidden Face

In arbuz forum, Ozbeks use latin script, as well. Can you understand %70 of what they wrote?


http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=34914

read this topic; the title is "Toshkentda yer qimirladi"

you dont need to be expert to understand that title, it is about earthquake in Tashkent.

ANd this is in Uygur written also in that topic; "yer tevridi digenni ozbekchide yer qimirladi deydikensiler , biliwaldim ."


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why dont we find a turkish, uygur and ozbek text.

Also, practice at these langauge will increase understand ratio of langauge. It looks like dayı had some practice.
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

So you can understand %80 or higher of Uygur, then?

Adamla sik gecme olm :)

I roughly said 70%, Im not that exact by guessing percentages.

To make you happy and to let you dream sweat this night i'll say yes it can be lower then 70% or who knows maybe higher then 70%.
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I should also add, It is not important If words are wroten by latin script or not. Sounds should be same too.

Yani, tamam alfabe aynı ama yazıyla ses aynı olmayınca( ozellıklede x ve wlerde) kelimeleri cok fazla cıkartamıyorsun.
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Can you understand 70% of ALL they wrote. Not %70 of special chose.

What's %70 of this, for instance?
 
nechinchi etajda turishilarga ham bogliq... birinchi etajda turganlarga parqi yoq boldi lekin...tagin bilmadim manga parqi bolmasdi
ammo Allohni ozi saqlasin
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To those who want to speak in Turkish,
 
zbekenin %70 ini anlamanın imkanı yoktur. Latince de olsa kıvranıyorsunuz Arbuz com' da biliyorum durumu.
 
Beni mutlu etmek değil, delikanlı gibi doğruyu yazın.
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Can you understand 70% of ALL they wrote. Not %70 of special chose.

What's %70 of this, for instance?
 
nechinchi etajda turishilarga ham bogliq... birinchi etajda turganlarga parqi yoq boldi lekin...tagin bilmadim manga parqi bolmasdi
ammo Allohni ozi saqlasin

If you give me the link from where you taken this text, i'll think i can grasp the idea behind this text much more.

i will use bold for which i did understand.

nechinchi = kacinci
boldu/bolmasdi = oldu/olmazdi
manga = bana-bence
ozi = zm yada sizi (allah ozi saqlasin = allah sizi korusun gibi, yada anadolu turkcesinde denildigi gibi Allah sizi kazadan beladan saklasin => korusun)
turishilarga = duruslarda, duruslarinda
parqi = farki (Turkce "f" Uzbekce "p" oluyo cogu zaman)
tagin = dag'in?
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Originally posted by DayI

let you dream sweat this night
 
And what the hell are you talking about?
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nechinchi = kacinci
boldu/bolmasdi = oldu/olmazdi
manga = bana-bence
ozi = zm yada sizi (allah ozi saqlasin = allah sizi korusun gibi, yada anadolu turkcesinde denildigi gibi Allah sizi kazadan beladan saklasin => korusun)
turishilarga = duruslarda, duruslarinda
parqi = farki (Turkce "f" Uzbekce "p" oluyo cogu zaman)
tagin = dag'in?
 
None of them could be understood by an ordinary Turkish speaker.
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

 
nechinchi = kacinci
boldu/bolmasdi = oldu/olmazdi
manga = bana-bence
ozi = zm yada sizi (allah ozi saqlasin = allah sizi korusun gibi, yada anadolu turkcesinde denildigi gibi Allah sizi kazadan beladan saklasin => korusun)
turishilarga = duruslarda, duruslarinda
parqi = farki (Turkce "f" Uzbekce "p" oluyo cogu zaman)
tagin = dag'in?
 
None of them could be understood by an ordinary Turkish speaker.
I am a ordinary Turkish speaker also, even worser i did never read any Turkish books (su cilgin turkler only the half of it) in my entire life. My Turkish is limited from what i've learnd of my parents.

None of them is a very big word, Allah ozi saklasin can be easily understanded by many ordinary Turkish speakers.


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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

To those who want to speak in Turkish,
 
zbekenin %70 ini anlamanın imkanı yoktur. Latince de olsa kıvranıyorsunuz Arbuz com' da biliyorum durumu.
 
Beni mutlu etmek değil, delikanlı gibi doğruyu yazın.


anlamak'la konusmanin arasinda cok buyuk fark var, anlamasina anlarsin belki yarisini ama konusamazsin belkide. En buyuk sorun Ozbekceyi konusmada, anlamada degil.
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"Allah ozi saklasin" can easily be understood. That's right, but not what I am talking about.
 
nechinchi = kacinci
boldu/bolmasdi = oldu/olmazdi
manga = bana-bence
ozi = zm yada sizi (allah ozi saqlasin = allah sizi korusun gibi, yada anadolu turkcesinde denildigi gibi Allah sizi kazadan beladan saklasin => korusun)
turishilarga = duruslarda, duruslarinda
parqi = farki (Turkce "f" Uzbekce "p" oluyo cogu zaman)
tagin = dag'in?
 
Notice the bold words.

If I said this:
 
"nechinchi etajda turishilarga ham bogliq... birinchi etajda turganlarga parqi yoq boldi lekin...tagin bilmadim manga parqi bolmasdi
ammo Allohni ozi saqlasin"
 
to any Turk in Turkey, would they able to understand %70 of that?
Is this what you claim?
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

"Allah ozi saklasin" can easily be understood. That's right, but not what I am talking about.
 
nechinchi = kacinci
boldu/bolmasdi = oldu/olmazdi
manga = bana-bence
ozi = zm yada sizi (allah ozi saqlasin = allah sizi korusun gibi, yada anadolu turkcesinde denildigi gibi Allah sizi kazadan beladan saklasin => korusun)
turishilarga = duruslarda, duruslarinda
parqi = farki (Turkce "f" Uzbekce "p" oluyo cogu zaman)
tagin = dag'in?
 
Notice the bold words.

If I said this:
 
"nechinchi etajda turishilarga ham bogliq... birinchi etajda turganlarga parqi yoq boldi lekin...tagin bilmadim manga parqi bolmasdi
ammo Allohni ozi saqlasin"
 
to any Turk in Turkey, would they able to understand %70 of that?
I dont know, it can change from person to person.


Is this what you claim?


No.

kivraniyosun hissediyorum


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First of all İ am half Tatar and i have Turkmen, Azeri, Tatar, Gagauz, Uygur friends in Cyprus. Okey maybe you can understand what did they write but while listening everythin changes because they speak fast. İts hard to understand them while speaking.

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 http://aton.ttu.edu/Tatar_Ezgileri.asp there are too many Tatar songs in this site. İf you read the lyrics you could understand but you cant understand while listening.
For example, download the Kukkuger song from that link and listen. than read the lyrics.


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Vallaha o pagede, izmirin kavaları varmıs onu dinliyorum:) Sagol.
 
Thanks, there is another song at that page, I am listening it.
 
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Originally posted by Mortaza

Vallaha o pagede, izmirin kavaları varmıs onu dinliyorum:) Sagol.
 
Thanks, there is another song at that page, I am listening it.
 
 
You are wellcomeBig%20smile
But there are also Tatar songs from Crimea, Caucasia, and Ural. İ advise you to listen Tatarstan/Ural songs if you could understand.(Kukkuger or Sulsulay for ex.)


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Karga Yiri
 
is this also kırım(tatar) song? Almost same with Turkish. do I miss something, I can understand some song easly, and dont understand some.(I can understand only same words.)
 


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Erkut and Mortaza,
 
nechinchi etajda turishilarga ham bogliq... birinchi etajda turganlarga parqi yoq boldi lekin...tagin bilmadim manga parqi bolmasdi
ammo Allohni ozi saqlasin.
 
Did you understand what I said?
 
 
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birinchi = Birinci

ham=Hem
yoq=Yok
lekin=Lakin
bilmadim =Bilmedim, bilemedim.
 
That is all, these are easy words.
 
is this ozbek or uygur?(I did understand uygur langauge but not this.)
 
ama bir miktar pratikle anlaşılabilir bir dil gibi geliyor. 70% ini standart bir turkun anlaması zor tabi.
 
 
 
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