Most Disciplined Modern Armed Force

Originally posted by Desimir I think that the most discipline armies in the world are german during WW2 and soviet during the cold war.I live in Bulgaria and there is a us military base near my city.I assure that these guys are not soldiers at all.Without technologies they sucks,thats way bulgarian forces beat us in every common training

The U.S. is so bad that the majority of Bulgarian officers go through american trained IMET. I would like to know what base you are talking about. The 3 bases that will be shared by the armed forces are the Novo Selo training range, including the Aytos storage facility, the Bezmer air base and the Graf Ignatievo air base. I hope you know that the U.S. National Guard also uses these and if thats your grounds for anything your sadly mistaken. Air Force is more laid back in any military. What active regular army units have you seen there?

After training/fighting with a large portion of the worlds militaries. Disciplined wise the ROK(south Korea) struck me as one of the most disciplined. They were quite structured and there was not alot of straying away from standard customs and courtesies. Germans seemed most laid back. Though this is not to take anything away from their abilities just my opinion and experiences.

Just a question but who is voting for Israel- this being the same Israel who in the recent Lebanon war was stricken by conscientius objectors, refusal to obey orders to advance, who ignored missile raid warnings adn had such trouble?

Hi all.

Edited by Hellios - 27-Sep-2006 at 22:08

I believe it is Chinese two, I've heard they have 3 years of military service but i am not sure in that.

Originally posted by Gundamor Originally posted by Desimir I think that the most discipline armies in the world are german during WW2 and soviet during the cold war.I live in Bulgaria and there is a us military base near my city.I assure that these guys are not soldiers at all.Without technologies they sucks,thats way bulgarian forces beat us in every common training The U.S. is so bad that the majority of Bulgarian officers go through american trained IMET. I would like to know what base you are talking about. The 3 bases that will be shared by the armed forces are the Novo Selo training range, including the Aytos storage facility, the Bezmer air base and the Graf Ignatievo air base. I hope you know that the U.S. National Guard also uses these and if thats your grounds for anything your sadly mistaken. Air Force is more laid back in any military. What active regular army units have you seen there? After training/fighting with a large portion of the worlds militaries. Disciplined wise the ROK(south Korea) struck me as one of the most disciplined. They were quite structured and there was not alot of straying away from standard customs and courtesies. Germans seemed most laid back. Though this is not to take anything away from their abilities just my opinion and experiences.

First i am talking about soldiers who are trained in Bulgaria.I will say that bulgarian officers are trained in both US and Europe.Now the best bulgarian officers are still those who were trained by soviets.

Second i am talking about the base in Novo Selo,which is about 10 km from my city Sliven.I dont know exactly what kind of US forces are here,but there are Abrams tanks.What i saw was one big fat afro-american.

And both of them were big and ugly.

I am pretty certain the more disciplinated army of all it's the German. The Prusian army is the best model of all in courage and discipline. In South America the most disciplinated of all is the Chilean, which was trained initially by the Prusians of before WWII.

Edited by pinguin - 27-Oct-2006 at 22:08

Originally posted by Praetorian I agree with u on WW 2 about the Germans but the Germans were also the best equipped army in the world at that time! I have to had it the dang GERMANS! THEY TOOK ON THE WORLD!!!

Common misconception. The best equipped armies of the war were the Western Allies and then the Soviets. The Germans actually usually sufficed on over engineered equipment and old kit. Their real ability was in their leaders and the motivation and experience of their troopers.
    

Originally posted by Krum Most of the german weapons were superior to the weapons of allies.For example tanks,some of the aircrafts,balistic missiles,fire arms,submarines,cannons and etc.The problem was not in german equipment,but lack of resourses.

Only to what I call "wargaming" standard (because they are the most obviously powerful).

In the early war the Germans actually had worse tanks than the French (but far superior tactics and strategy). By the end of the war they had been out-engineered by the T-34 and Sherman (resources of course are part of what makes a tank so good. A T-34 or Sherman takes far less resources than a Tiger.).

Submarine wise it mattered not a jot. British sonar and Navy was better in the end and won the battle of the Atlantic.

The missiles took up a disproportionate amount of resources to what they achieved.

Fire arms. Well once again they were either average or over-engineered. The Panzershrek was a Bazooka copy. The PIAT had no German equivalent. The Sten and Grease Gun were much easier to build. The PPS is cheaper, easier and just as effective.

Gun wise: the Allies had guns just as good as the 88 (and the Russians totally owned the Germans over artillery)- they just didn't use them (ie. the British never used the Bofors AA in N. Africa despite the fact it was actually thei best AT weapon.

Engineering is not really about effectiveness as much as cheapness and efficency in total war.

If you want more examples of the Allies and Soviets superiority look at say Hobarts Funnies, the Sherman "Firefly", the Shrturmovik etc.
    

turkish army by far the most disciplined ...since 1365 they recruit the best foreign forces to fight for them ...