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    Posted: 25-May-2006 at 14:23
how many different troops where there in the ottoman army.
I know about the yeni ceri (jannisary) and the sipahi.
 
what were the others and do you have picsBig smile
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What does yeni ceri mean in Turkish, anyway?

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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 15:18
It means new troops
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 13:51
I got this off of wikipedia. There were kapikulu which were basically slaves, also there were azzabs which built things and resupplied supplies, the bashi-bazouk were a type of azzab who were the rough, and poor branch. They were very brutal. The akincis were part of the (alti boluk) branches of calvary. They were mostly scouts. The sipahis were the most important of the calvary. Hope this helps.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 13:53
here is a picture of a sipahi
 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 13:56
 akinci.jpg %2817984 bytes%29      Here is a picture of an akinci.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2006 at 04:47
Theres nothing there
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  Quote violentjack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2006 at 08:56
Yes Akinci were more like archers of today
Yeni-Ceri werent troups or army like other branches, they were elite of elite, and were only sub-serviant to Sultan only.Were strong with huge hats.They were also Meshter troops, thats Band that accompanied Ottoman soldiers into battle

Topulpasha they were heavy artilery of these days

Actually Bashibozuks were irregulars, they wWinkerent in any army.Mainly they were Cherkez or Kurds, but others belonged in their ranks.Their salary was war plunder and many times they rebelled against Ottoman state in the past.But were brutal sometimes, so even Sultan feared them


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DOes anyone know what the real name is of the abus guns on AOE 3
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  Quote Desimir Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2006 at 16:44
Do you really want to know what kind of soldier wete jannysaris(yenicari).Most of them were taken by turkish when they were a childrens from slaveries like bulgarians,serbs and others.
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  Quote Batu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2006 at 01:05
no they are a kind of soldiers who beat people like bulgarians,serbs and others :)
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2006 at 01:39
Originally posted by Desimir

Do you really want to know what kind of soldier wete jannysaris(yenicari).Most of them were taken by turkish when they were a childrens from slaveries like bulgarians,serbs and others.
 
thats the beauty of it
 
YOu might think its cruel but it's efrective and in war thats the only thing that counts.
 
The question is why not? the ottomans have a regular army those boys were given the chances to have better lifes than anyone of them could dream of (carreer I mean)


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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2006 at 06:19
Originally posted by Desimir

Do you really want to know what kind of soldier wete jannysaris(yenicari).Most of them were taken by turkish when they were a childrens from slaveries like bulgarians,serbs and others.
 
It was the system of the Ottomans...Not just janissaries, but important statesmen were also raised in that manner..
 
It was made in this way,so that no other Turkmen family would contest the rule of Ottoman family, and pose a threat to them..And it was a success for Ottoman family line..
 
Though, they started to become one of the major ruling power intervening in Sultan's decisions after the beginning of 17th century, and even gone too far to hang or depose some Sultans..They had been the main force stopping all the new innovations suggested for the empire,being one of the reasons for its modernization to come so late.
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2006 at 15:02
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no they are a kind of soldiers who beat people like bulgarians,serbs and others :)
 
You make it sound like Jannisaries were specially bred for fighting (and winning) over Bulgars and Serbs.
 
A claim that is stupid and ignorant of history.
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  Quote Turk Nomad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2006 at 07:37
Most effective Ottoman Troops were Azaps.An Azap soldier chosen from non-mixed Turk Nomads(Yorukhs).They are stronger than mixed ones.
 
They use no armour and no weapon!=).Only hands.They were heroic warriors and frighten nearby enemy.They  used their hands to kill heavily armoured troops!
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  Quote Batu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2006 at 08:59
Azaps are berzerkers.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2006 at 10:08
Originally posted by Turk Nomad

Most effective Ottoman Troops were Azaps.An Azap soldier chosen from non-mixed Turk Nomads(Yorukhs).They are stronger than mixed ones.
 
They use no armour and no weapon!=).Only hands.They were heroic warriors and frighten nearby enemy.They  used their hands to kill heavily armoured troops!
 
nonsense non-mixed are stronger. I said physicly weaker.
 
why do you think the ottomans took sebs and georgians for jannisaries  strenght. but this didn't made the turks lesser warriors. Yoruks were stronger than the turkmens(early turks in anatolia) due to there way of life. The nomad fighting "style" is allways on horseback mostly mounted archers or lancers.
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  Quote EGETRK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2006 at 03:47
sipahi,kapıkulu,humbaracılar,lağamcılar...
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tell more about lağamcılar...
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  Quote EGETRK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2006 at 05:03
they work @undergroung during the sieges
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