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Topic: Little-Known Facts about Teddy Roosevelt Posted: 20-Dec-2012 at 21:21 |
I just learned two Teddy-related facts not mentioned in the article:
1. He was the first president to fly in an airplane.
2. He was the first president to travel abroad while in office.
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Posted: 21-Dec-2012 at 00:32 |
TR is the only President to have been awarded the MOH. As did his son which I noted earlier. As per the following TR also won the NPP. ''Theodore Roosevelt is the only President
of the United States to ever win the the Medal of Honor. He also becomes the
only person to hold both the Medal of Honor and the Nobel Peace Prize. Theodore
Roosevelt received the medal for his actions on July 1, 1898 at Kettle Hill and
San Juan Heights during the Battle of San Juan Heights in Cuba.
The President's son, Brig. General
Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. also received the Medal of Honor posthumously for his
sevice in D-day during WWII. The only other father and son to receive
Medals of Honor were General of the Armies, Douglas MacArthur and his father
General Arthur MacArthur who won the medals respecitvely in WWII and the Civil
War. (My bold) Hq's in the Field Apache NF Vic: Clifton, AZ.
Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 21-Dec-2012 at 00:35
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Posted: 30-Dec-2012 at 14:41 |
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis
TR is the only President to have been awarded the MOH. As did his son which I noted earlier. As per the following TR also won the NPP. ''Theodore Roosevelt is the only President
of the United States to ever win the the Medal of Honor. He also becomes the
only person to hold both the Medal of Honor and the Nobel Peace Prize. Theodore
Roosevelt received the medal for his actions on July 1, 1898 at Kettle Hill and
San Juan Heights during the Battle of San Juan Heights in Cuba.
The President's son, Brig. General
Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. also received the Medal of Honor posthumously for his
sevice in D-day during WWII. The only other father and son to receive
Medals of Honor were General of the Armies, Douglas MacArthur and his father
General Arthur MacArthur who won the medals respecitvely in WWII and the Civil
War. (My bold) Hq's in the Field Apache NF Vic: Clifton, AZ.
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This is true and is highlighted in the article. Did you guys know that it was Teddy who renamed the Executive Mansion the White House?
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Posted: 04-Jan-2013 at 12:51 |
He was also the first president to be submerged in a submarine.
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Posted: 18-Jan-2013 at 01:21 |
You can also add that he was the first President to travel abroad.
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Posted: 02-Feb-2013 at 15:34 |
Does it strike anyone else as odd that Teddy was a progressive and yet he ran as a Republican?
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Posted: 02-Feb-2013 at 15:55 |
In Douggie Mac's case, both father and son received the medals in their life-times, and both while wearing their country's uniform. Theodore Roosevelt pere received his in 2001, more than a century after the facts. Frankly speaking, his MOH should not count as anything other than a political gambit to make Americans feel good. It degraded the medal.
In his lifetime, Roosevelt campaigned mightily to receive the award, then the only medal for military heroism in the United States Armed Forces (there was a Lifesaving Medal in gold and silver for heroism in saving lives at sea). Considering how politically powerful he was, it must have taken considerable moral courage for the Army staff to oppose his receiving the MOH. Contrast this to the fact that until 1915, U.S. Marine Officers were not allowed to receive the Medal of Honor. They could receive a Brevet Medal which brought with it a temporary promotion. Apparently, courage above and beyond the call of duty was expected of Marine officers in those days.
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Posted: 02-Feb-2013 at 16:57 |
Originally posted by doublejm1
Does it strike anyone else as odd that Teddy was a progressive and yet he ran as a Republican? |
Not particularly. Because if you know their history they were indeed progressive and even considered radical, in it's contextual definition, based in part; on their/his acceptance of classic liberalism as an integral component of conservatism, from their inception in 1854. Only one such example is necessary to substantiate the point: their rejection of slavery and their efforts to enact federal legislation to ensure equality of opportunity and treatment. ie. The CRA of 1866. There are many more. To a greater or lesser degree they remain so. TR was no exception to the classic definition as then used in era context. Which would not change until the advent of intellectual social progressives and social justice theories, based on the tradtional European model and practice, initiated by Wilson and carried thru by FDR and now others. Tho in point of fact, those also were in play with the Republicans and leaders of their party post ACW. The difference primarily today is their rejection of post modern; aka 'American liberalism', espoused by their opponents in the Democratic party of the current era. Ie. mid to late 20th ce. thru the present. A corollary question is: would TR reject it as well.
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Posted: 03-Mar-2013 at 18:41 |
I read on another forum that Teddy carried a gun with him at all times. Can anyone corroborate this?
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Posted: 29-Mar-2013 at 16:43 |
Today I read that at his inauguration Teddy wore a ring that had one of Abe Lincoln's hairs on it.
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Posted: 07-Apr-2013 at 21:50 |
Several articles/sources say that TR thought of the white race as superior to others.
Have you guys come across this?
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Posted: 08-Jul-2013 at 23:03 |
Haven't been on the forums in a while. Any other Teddy facts you guys can share?
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Posted: 08-Aug-2013 at 23:11 |
Originally posted by lirelou
In Douggie Mac's case, both father and son received the medals in their life-times, and both while wearing their country's uniform. Theodore Roosevelt pere received his in 2001, more than a century after the facts. Frankly speaking, his MOH should not count as anything other than a political gambit to make Americans feel good. It degraded the medal.
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You're right. I'm sure he would have loved to have received it while he was alive.
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Posted: 09-Aug-2013 at 11:23 |
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis
And last but not least, as this can continue in various forms covering various streets etc.....one of my personal favorites as a soldier. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. Brigadier General, USA. MOH, DSC, SS, PH, LOH, Croix de guerre. 26th US Infantry Regiment 'Blue Spaders', 1st United States Infantry Division 'Big Red One' and Asst Division Commander (ADC). Later ADC, 4th United States Infantry Division, 'Ivy', Utah Beach, Operation Overlord.
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That would be his descendant, not Teddy Roosevelt himself.
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Posted: 12-Aug-2013 at 11:14 |
Originally posted by doublejm1
I read on another forum that Teddy carried a gun with him at all times. Can anyone corroborate this? |
So did King Zog of Albania. Leaders were in constant danger of assassination at the hands of anarchists
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Posted: 18-Aug-2013 at 17:52 |
Originally posted by Mountain Man
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis
And last but not least, as this can continue in various forms covering various streets etc.....one of my personal favorites as a soldier. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. Brigadier General, USA. MOH, DSC, SS, PH, LOH, Croix de guerre. 26th US Infantry Regiment 'Blue Spaders', 1st United States Infantry Division 'Big Red One' and Asst Division Commander (ADC). Later ADC, 4th United States Infantry Division, 'Ivy', Utah Beach, Operation Overlord.
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That would be his descendant, not Teddy Roosevelt himself.
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That's true. He's referencing his son, Teddy Jr.
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Posted: 16-Sep-2013 at 20:40 |
Any Teddy books you guys can recommend?
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