Western Iranians vs. Eastern Iranians

I ask readers to accept indulgently the previous post from the remark edited....

From the beginning of our Era and till 60th years of the 20th eyelid АLANs there were Caucasian Turkic peoples whom Karachay and Balkar are called. These are those KYVCHAKIAN  which accepted Christianity the First after first Christians from among Jews. Not all from them steel christian:Part of ALANs continued traditions Sumerian Tengrianity with an equipotential cross in the form of Tengri symbol, the third part the late accepted Islam. Turkic peoples of the Caucasus, KARACHAi and BALKARs still address to tribespeople - "ALAN". AS is the self-name of part of Balkars returned in Caucus, it remained at the most ancient Turkic peoples during times to the Flood. During the Flood Turkic peoples escaped in the Caucasus. All other Turkic peoples on Earth - descendants of  KARACHi and BALKAR. What proofs at me? The ancient Georgian chronicle argues that Turkic peoples = HON(HUN,GUN,KON) were the FIRST inhabitants of the Caucasus.  Moreover, Karachi and Balkars have no any haplogroups N, Q, O or C. At them isn't present a uniform copy east haplogroups. False mister tries to insist on the ABSURD assumption, locating on the FORGED sources, on Abayev book which Abayev wrote by request of communist party and the Central Committee СPSU.This the book - lie from the beginning and up to the end. Ossetians who try to steal the Turkic name ALAN, were moved to the Caucasus very late, on historical measures during a board era by  Sassanids. OSSETIANs is absolutely SETTLED ethnos, and  Sassanids moved them to the Caucasus for restoration of the Great Caucasian Wall. Yes, yes. And in the Caucasus there are remains of the Great Wall - from the Black Sea to Caspian. This wall was destroyed periodically by Turkic peoples = ALANs.

Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 19-Jan-2013 at 11:59

as az and yas are the names of ancient ossetians. the question who are the alans then. I dont see turkic names connecting to them either.

the yas people left language traces in hungary, and its clearly ossetian.

Originally posted by benzin the yas people left language traces in hungary, and its clearly ossetian.

Edited by EN-SZE - 19-Jan-2013 at 12:09

Originally posted by benzin as az and yas are the names of ancient ossetians. the question who are the alans then. I dont see turkic names connecting to them either.

Edited by EN-SZE - 19-Jan-2013 at 12:30

Originally posted by EN-SZE "Он не ничего отчетности «ложные», насколько я могу различить .... но он, возможно, использовал академические ссылки, связанные с Агусти Алемань, источники на аланов: Критические компиляции." ====================== You GUESS and ASSUME let's answer my opponent at first. Instead of "ill turn" you could give simply the reference to that source which is known to you. And as you could add and opinion of the real linguists on reliability of your source. Yours faithfully.

Whether I guess or assume is irrevelent to the use of your rude terminology, in violation of the CoC, which I edited. Which I not only have the authority to do... but will do. You have been warned. Don't do it again. Don't challenge my authority to moderate this forum. You do? you will be on the bench. period.

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Originally posted by EN-SZE Originally posted by benzin the yas people left language traces in hungary, and its clearly ossetian. you read the reliable primary source? Someone to you made comments on SEPARATE words, taking out of context? Give me, please, all primary source, I will analyse it, and then I will comment on it for you. I am already familiar with some attempts of Ossetian "cientists" to interpret Turkic names. These attempts were similar to attempts "to pull a parrot on the globe".

In which Ossetian are you talking about?

The wordlist is made in latin and yas.

Originally posted by benzin Part of the wordlist I found: yas - 'magyar' ossetian (digor) Acca – ‘kacsa’; oszét acc/accae ‘vadkacsa’  ...................ASS Ban – ‘nap’; oszét bon Basa – ‘rántással készült leves’; oszét bas/basae Bax – ‘ló’; oszét baex Carif – ‘vaj’; oszét sarv/carv Cugan – ”lábas, fazék’; digor cigon Dan – ‘víz-1; oszét don Da – ‘tied’, oszét dae Docega – ‘tehén’; oszét dusgae/docgae ‘fejőstehén’ Fit – ‘hús’; oszét fyd/fid Fus – ‘juh’; oszét fys/fus Gal – ‘bika’, oszét gal Gist – ‘túró’; oszét, digor aengezun ‘forr, erjed’, aengist ‘erjesztő’ Hecav – ‘gazda’; oszét xisaw/xecaw Huvar – ‘köles’; oszét Xor/xwar Huvas – ‘széna’; oszét xos/xwasae Jaika – ‘tojás’; oszét ajk/ajka12 Kapken – ‘hal’, oszét kaef Karak – ‘tyúk’, oszét kark Karbac – ‘árpa’; oszét, iron kcervaez (árpafajta) Kasa – ‘kása’; oszét kash/kasae Kurajna – ‘malom’; oszét kwyroj/kurojnae K’ever – ‘kenyér’; oszét k’aebaer Manavona – ‘búza’; oszét maenaew/maenaewae Na – ‘mienk’; oszét nae Odok – ‘kanál’; oszét widyg/jedug Oras – ‘kovász’, oszét, digor waeras Osa – ‘nő’; oszét us/osae Qaz – ‘liba, lúd’; oszét qazh/qaz Sabar – ‘zab’ Saka – ‘kecske’; oszét shaegwyt Sana – ‘bor’, oszét saen/saenae Tabac – ‘tányér’, oszét taebaeg Vas – ‘borjú’; oszét, digor waess The wordlist made by a local to a government judge who went to judge to pilisjaszfalu, a yas village in Hungary in 1422.

Edited by EN-SZE - 19-Jan-2013 at 13:08

Some yas legends from hungary, as I see there is an interest for it.

This is the horn of Lél. He is a legendary, also a real yasic captain, the only one able to blow the horn. Its a true masterpiece, probably from the 9th century. Its said to be symbol of all yasic people around the world.

Its said to be damaged when Lél leading the magyar army in germany lost a battle, got captured, and when he was taken in front of the royalty he smashed the head of Konrad prince of Lotharingia, relative of Otto the I.st holy roman emperor.



The horn of Lél (also Lehel) is in Jászberény, Hungary. wich is said to be the Yasic capital.