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Ionian
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Topic: Imia or Kardak? Posted: 29-Mar-2005 at 13:10 |
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Posted: 29-Mar-2005 at 13:15 |
let me guess, some stupid dispute about some tiny, uninhabited rocks?
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Posted: 29-Mar-2005 at 17:41 |
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let me guess, some stupid dispute about some tiny, uninhabited rocks? |
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Posted: 30-Mar-2005 at 13:46 |
Is this issue really important? I mean, the main conflict is only about some worthless peace of rock in Aegean Sea, so I dont think it is worth debating on it...
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Posted: 05-Apr-2005 at 12:10 |
Originally posted by Mixcoatl
let me guess, some stupid dispute about some tiny, uninhabited rocks? |
There is not stupid dispute in diplomacy.
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Posted: 05-Apr-2005 at 13:29 |
Paying attention to this kind of silly disputes only create problems.
Diplomats'd better spend their time with more serious disputes.
To me there are two suitable ways of resolving disputes over small islands:
1) if the island is inhabited, let the inhabitants decide.
2) if the island is not inhabited, ignore it.
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Posted: 05-Apr-2005 at 16:41 |
It's not even an island, just a couple pieces of large rocks shaping an island like formation actually.
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 06:28 |
Originally posted by Colchis
It's not even an island, just a couple pieces of large rocks shaping an island like formation actually. |
yes.. but they r greek territory and turkey whant it..
its a examble of turkish imperialism....they dont respect the international law
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 09:50 |
Any map of a country can not be a subject of international law unless this map has been approved by the parliament of this country.
A Britsh map or any other Turkish map proves nothing. In some maps in large scales they lack Cyprus. Does it mean that Cyprus doesn't exist.
I hope we are clever enough not to fight for an empty rock.
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 10:34 |
Originally posted by Ionian
yes.. but they r greek territory and turkey whant it..
its a examble of turkish imperialism....they dont respect the international law
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Kardak doesnt exist int Greek seaborders. It is in the middle of the border, that is why we had a conflict.
I thought that you opened this topic to discuss properly, without blaming Turkey as being "imperialist". )Imperialis, which Turkey doesnt, and cannot have anything to do with it, isnt for some rock pieces in the middle of Aegean sea. The only confict was because Greek government declared its authority on a piece of rock in the sea, and tried to place its flag onto that piece of rock. This is kind of a mentality of "inferiority complex"...
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 10:34 |
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by Colchis
It's not even an island, just a couple pieces of large rocks shaping an island like formation actually. |
yes.. but they r greek territory and turkey whant it..
its a examble of turkish imperialism....they dont respect the international law
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No it's also in our territory.I heard about these rocks,we almost fought for it.And also the islands in the agean is an our territory but greece has them.how can we talk of international law?And the story began when a greek man put a flag over there but the crisis was stopped.Now neither country has it
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 14:10 |
Originally posted by Alparslan
Any map of a country can not be a subject of international law unless this map has been approved by the parliament of this country.
A Britsh map or any other Turkish map proves nothing. In some maps in large scales they lack Cyprus. Does it mean that Cyprus doesn't exist.
I hope we are clever enough not to fight for an empty rock.
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pls look better the map.. its a map of turkish government ....
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 14:52 |
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The map says forbidden areas.Put pictures that you undestand
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 14:53 |
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by Alparslan
Any map of a country can not be a subject of international law unless this map has been approved by the parliament of this country.
A Britsh map or any other Turkish map proves nothing. In some maps in large scales they lack Cyprus. Does it mean that Cyprus doesn't exist.
I hope we are clever enough not to fight for an empty rock.
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pls look better the map.. its a map of turkish government ....
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What's wrong with you?All the Yesssss'es and .....'s?Are you a spy?
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"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
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Posted: 06-Apr-2005 at 14:56 |
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by Alparslan
Any map of a country can not be a subject of international law unless this map has been approved by the parliament of this country.
A Britsh map or any other Turkish map proves nothing. In some maps in large scales they lack Cyprus. Does it mean that Cyprus doesn't exist.
I hope we are clever enough not to fight for an empty rock.
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pls look better the map.. its a map of turkish government ....
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Government?Ah you mean belonging to.Yes it does.
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"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
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Posted: 10-Apr-2005 at 09:03 |
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by Colchis
It's not even an island, just a couple pieces of large rocks shaping an island like formation actually. |
yes.. but they r greek territory and turkey whant it..
its a examble of turkish imperialism....they dont respect the international law
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No it's also in our territory.I heard about these rocks,we almost fought for it.And also the islands in the agean is an our territory but greece has them.how can we talk of international law?And the story began when a greek man put a flag over there but the crisis was stopped.Now neither country has it
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???????? we have a border line in aegean or not?
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Posted: 10-Apr-2005 at 16:53 |
Remind me again how some rocks in the middle of the sea are important.
Conectrate on land that is actually land.
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Posted: 11-Apr-2005 at 06:07 |
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by Colchis
It's not even an island, just a couple pieces of large rocks shaping an island like formation actually. |
yes.. but they r greek territory and turkey whant it..
its a examble of turkish imperialism....they dont respect the international law
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No it's also in our territory.I heard about these rocks,we almost fought for it.And also the islands in the agean is an our territory but greece has them.how can we talk of international law?And the story began when a greek man put a flag over there but the crisis was stopped.Now neither country has it
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???????? we have a border line in aegean or not?
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No border.It's all mixed up.So Turkey had an equal chance of taking it but now it's international territory.As i said; your map mentioned it as forbidden areas.
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"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
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Posted: 11-Apr-2005 at 07:48 |
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by Ionian
Originally posted by Colchis
It's not even an island, just a couple pieces of large rocks shaping an island like formation actually. |
yes.. but they r greek territory and turkey whant it..
its a examble of turkish imperialism....they dont respect the international law
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No it's also in our territory.I heard about these rocks,we almost fought for it.And also the islands in the agean is an our territory but greece has them.how can we talk of international law?And the story began when a greek man put a flag over there but the crisis was stopped.Now neither country has it
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???????? we have a border line in aegean or not?
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No border.It's all mixed up.So Turkey had an equal chance of taking it but now it's international territory.As i said; your map mentioned it as forbidden areas.
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no border? no border between greece and turkey...well that is new!
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