Author |
Share Topic Topic Search Topic Options
|
Cyrus Shahmiri
Administrator
King of Kings
Joined: 07-Aug-2004
Location: Iran
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6240
|
Quote Reply
Topic: What is a beautiful building? Posted: 13-Feb-2005 at 14:30 |
Persians think it is a beautiful building:
Shah Cheragh Mosque in Shiraz, 12th century, Salghurid period
What do you think?
|
|
|
Benceno
Immortal Guard
Joined: 03-Jan-2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 09:09 |
They are very nice indeed (both the shape and the materials looks).
I do not know if it is the case here, but I found that when it comes to
these magnificent buildings in Europe and America(I am more familiar
with that) I remember that they were built using slave or almost slave
work-force and the riches used in their construction where often the
result of having huge amounts of people living in utter missery. That
takes most of the beauty away.
|
Hola.
|
|
Jorsalfar
Shogun
Joined: 08-Jan-2005
Location: Norway
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 205
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 09:19 |
slaves in europe?After the Roman Empire?
Edited by Jorsalfar
|
|
Styrbiorn
Caliph
Joined: 04-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2810
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 11:57 |
Very beautiful. What's the material used in that?
Originally posted by Jorsalfar
slaves in europe?After the Roman Empire? |
He's wrong of course. No slaves here. Not that serfdom is much better, but far from all of Europe had anything like that.
Edited by Styrbiorn
|
|
cattus
Arch Duke
Retired AE Moderator
Joined: 02-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1803
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 12:08 |
yes, why do the walls glitter so, what is used on the walls? Would love to visit.. great rugs also.
|
|
Cyrus Shahmiri
Administrator
King of Kings
Joined: 07-Aug-2004
Location: Iran
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6240
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 12:45 |
What's the material used in that? |
I don't know exactly but I think inside the mosque is mirror-work.
|
|
|
Infidel
Colonel
Joined: 19-Dec-2004
Location: Neutral Zone
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 691
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 13:37 |
Islamic art is traditionally very beautiful indeed.
|
An nescite quantilla sapientia mundus regatur?
|
|
Infidel
Colonel
Joined: 19-Dec-2004
Location: Neutral Zone
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 691
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 13:40 |
But doesn't all that glittering take away the humbleness required to face God? The same thing with churches. Good for the sight but what about the spirit?
|
An nescite quantilla sapientia mundus regatur?
|
|
Faran
Knight
Joined: 25-Dec-2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 65
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 14:42 |
The walls are covered with mirrors, Catt; it doesn't show up too well in the picture.
Later Islamic architecture didn't follow the same philosophy of the Kaaba, which was built simply out of humbleness; perhaps the idea is, while maintaining humility, to put the utmost effort into the creation of a house of worship?
Cyrus, I thought pictures were not allowed?
Edited by Faran
|
|
Miller
Baron
Joined: 25-Aug-2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 487
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 15:59 |
Originally posted by Faran
Later Islamic architecture didn't follow the same philosophy of the Kaaba, which was built simply out of humbleness;
|
Well, Kaaba had not been build as an Islamic structure. Pre Isalmic
Meccan probably could not have afford anything more galmorous
|
|
Cyrus Shahmiri
Administrator
King of Kings
Joined: 07-Aug-2004
Location: Iran
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6240
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 07:51 |
Cyrus, I thought pictures were not allowed? |
I don't think so, at least about this mosque, of course it is possible that on-Muslims are not permitted to enter it.
|
|
|
Kuu-ukko
Shogun
Joined: 02-Dec-2004
Location: Finland
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 204
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 10:13 |
Originally posted by Infidel
But doesn't all that glittering take away the humbleness required to face God? The same thing with churches. Good for the sight but what about the spirit? |
Isn't the object to make the visitor humble in front of the massive cathedral/mosque? I get awestruck when I see either of them, even though I'm neither muslim nor christian.
|
|
Faran
Knight
Joined: 25-Dec-2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 65
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 13:54 |
Originally posted by Miller
Originally posted by Faran
Later Islamic architecture didn't follow the same philosophy of the Kaaba, which was built simply out of humbleness;
|
Well, Kaaba had not been build as an Islamic structure. Pre Isalmic Meccan probably could not have afford anything more galmorous
|
That is true, but in Islamic tradition a monothiestic Abraam built the Kaaba and his faith was later lost to the Arabians (Muslims believe Mecca s the wilderness of Paran). That is not to say this is true, but since it concerns Muslims' beliefs and they believe it's true...
But thanks for clearing it up. I was neglectfull in the original post.
|
|
Faran
Knight
Joined: 25-Dec-2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 65
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 13:58 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
[
of course it is possible that on-Muslims are not permitted to enter it.
|
Oh...ooops
|
|
Benceno
Immortal Guard
Joined: 03-Jan-2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 25-Feb-2005 at 11:16 |
Originally posted by Jorsalfar
slaves in europe?After the Roman Empire? |
You may call it serfdom if you want, but it wasn't very different from
being a slave. Even when slavery and serfdom were abolished, poor
people were used as almost slave work force (they still are today,
perhaps not in Europe though).
|
Hola.
|
|
ramin
General
Joined: 16-Feb-2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 921
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 05-Mar-2005 at 02:28 |
a beautiful building is what we see in Rome, Milan, Berlin, Koln, and east europe. (of course in my opinion).
|
"I won't laugh if a philosophy halves the moon"
|
|
Cyrus Shahmiri
Administrator
King of Kings
Joined: 07-Aug-2004
Location: Iran
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6240
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 05-Mar-2005 at 11:24 |
ok, please give some samples!
|
|
|
ramin
General
Joined: 16-Feb-2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 921
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 05-Mar-2005 at 21:58 |
sure
Reichstag (Berlin):
The Dome (Koln):
Cathedral (Milan):
St. Peter's Square (Vatican):
|
"I won't laugh if a philosophy halves the moon"
|
|
Cyrus Shahmiri
Administrator
King of Kings
Joined: 07-Aug-2004
Location: Iran
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6240
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 07-Mar-2005 at 09:45 |
Those are really great buildings but not so much beautiful!
|
|
|
ramin
General
Joined: 16-Feb-2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 921
|
Quote Reply
Posted: 07-Mar-2005 at 14:53 |
they are beautiful, i mean what more do we expect from a building? I know they may not be the greatests Cyrus but that's just my taste
Edited by ramin
|
"I won't laugh if a philosophy halves the moon"
|
|