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Sino Defender
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Topic: Most Disciplined Modern Armed Force Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 00:51 |
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Halevi
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 01:24 |
no clue, but im interested in seeing how those in the know vote
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 01:32 |
The armed force as a whole? or its best units?
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 01:48 |
Isn't this like asking which brand of sult is the sultiest?
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 01:54 |
it's impossible to tell unless they've all been in a war recently. Marching and looking pretty is one thing, how they act under fire is different
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 01:57 |
I don't think there's anyone here who has enough knowledge about all the mentioned choices to be able to pick the best.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 02:14 |
Royal Nepalese Forces
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 02:47 |
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it's impossible to tell unless they've all been in a war recently. Marching and looking pretty is one thing, how they act under fire is different |
being disciplined and having lots of guts are two different things. being disciplined means having good conduct and good discipline. i've heard that many un soldiers stationed in africa have really poor discipline. they drink, get hookers, fight among themselves.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 02:50 |
what i mean being discipline here isn't whether you have guts and stand there still when there are bullets flying to you. what i mean being discipline here is having good conducts (e.g. obey orders, do not steal, do not loot, do not harm innocents, do not get hookers) things like that.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 07:20 |
Armies in a war or cold war or in long therm threat situations are more disciplined the other armies.Because of their situation they have to be more serious then other forces.
And i think because of their national mentality the far east country armies are more disciplined then other countries.
In this fact i vote for the israel armed forces they are still in war situation.
At second i wouldd choose the north korean army.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 07:49 |
Originally posted by Sino Defender
Originally posted by Illuminati
it's impossible to tell unless they've all been in a war recently. Marching and looking pretty is one thing, how they act under fire is different |
being disciplined and having lots of guts are two different things. being disciplined means having good conduct and good discipline. i've heard that many un soldiers stationed in africa have really poor discipline. they drink, get hookers, fight among themselves. |
That's the proper description of disciplined. Though being rowdy off-duty isn't necessarily bad depending on the local culture, it's more to do with whether the soldiers can behave with enough decorum that they don't give the impression of being barbarians, so more important is whether or not they can avoid unnecessarily repressing or killing civilians, whether they get along with civilians socially, treat them well and so on.
I'd have a hard time picking - it used to be the Commonwealth countries (eg Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand) but they seem to have lost alot of that since the 80s or so. Australia and Canada are still fairly disciplined, but, they've definately had some problems and places like Africa have highlighted that (thinking particularly about Somalia).
Probably some of the little miliaries like Norway or the Swiss, and maybe also Japan, are the most disciplined right now. I'm really not familiar enough with the military culture of alot of different places to be sure. All I can really say for sure is that here (Canada) we probably once occupied that spot, particularly during WW2 and during our post-war missions to places like Cyprus. But I don't think we do anymore, though we're still above average.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 12:58 |
Turkish army is one of the most diciplined force right now . Because of the Turkish millitarical history and traditions, our army is one of the best.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 14:55 |
Originally posted by Illuminati
it's impossible to tell unless they've all been in a war recently. Marching and looking pretty is one thing, how they act under fire is different |
I voted for IAF for this reason. They've proven their professionalism in combat against the Syrians over Southern Lebanon in the 80s and operations like the destruction of the Iraqi nuclear reactor where the Israelis jets involved masqueraded as an airliner.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 14:58 |
British Army without a doubt.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 15:11 |
Originally posted by Sino Defender
i've heard that many un soldiers stationed in africa have really poor discipline. they drink, get hookers, fight among themselves. |
Not really a problem given that they're not in a real army.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 15:18 |
Originally posted by Halevi
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I agree. I wonder how You check this discipline how You can discuss this.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 16:27 |
Originally posted by Genghis
Originally posted by Sino Defender
i've heard that many un soldiers stationed in africa have really poor discipline. they drink, get hookers, fight among themselves. |
Not really a problem given that they're not in a real army.
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actually, they are. un soldiers are military regulars or police special forces sent by different countries.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 18:23 |
Na, that is a bit of a generalisation, the Uruguayians have done a really good job in the DR Congo (IIRC), disarming gangs and stopping them from terrosising villagers and towns people.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 19:10 |
The Marines!
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Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 20:58 |
If the Marines (the marines are the best prsn you hit it on the dot) but lets put em aside then who would be the most discipline? It would have to go to the Israelis. Fact is they are under-fire all the time, everyone is required to join the military service at a certain age (17 I think but i could be wrong). I also have friends here in the Us (jewish friends) that go to Isreal and go to military camp for a month . Without a doubt, Israel forces hands down.
--Also many countries imploy Israeli veterans to learn self-defense against terrorism. Especially down in South America, they employ many Israelis in Colombia
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