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coolstorm
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Topic: Your opinion: Who is the most hostile towards Africans/Blacks Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 01:14 |
Not trying to generalize people.
Just a survey.
Given the racist incident in the soccer match between England and Spain, I am interested in knowing the opinion on what you think about racism.
Racism is bad.
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Styrbiorn
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 08:57 |
How do you judge who is the most hostile towards black people? Have polls been made on the topic? Or do you judge after what you *think*? Personally, I have no idea, but there are racists everywhere, and given the orgranized attempts in the West to suppress and educate about the issue, I'm willing to bet quite a lot that these areas are the least racist nowadays. Judging from personal experience, Chinese are the most racist people I've met and talked to over the net, so I'll vote for those (in fact I wouldn't like to vote at all, but hey, I like polls).
You have a few strange options though. Some are regions, some are religions, some are nations within regions (why separate English from Western Europeans? Are they inclined to be generally more or less racist than the rest?)
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Kids
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 09:07 |
"Chinese are the most racist people I've met and talked to over the
net, so I'll vote for those (in fact I wouldn't like to vote at all,
but hey, I like polls)"
Ignorant answers, and this topic will create a wave of prejudice. I suggest you to remove this topic.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 09:11 |
Originally posted by Kids
Ignorant answers, and this topic will create a wave of prejudice. I suggest you to remove this topic.
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No, it was not an ignorant answer. I clearly stated it was from personal experience, but did not try to make a conclusion about Chinese in general. However, I do agree this is a really bad topic though, and I'm surprised I actually cared posting in it. I'm in a pick-a-fight-mood today, that might explain it.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 09:36 |
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No, it was not an ignorant answer. I clearly stated it was from
personal experience, but did not try to make a conclusion about Chinese
in general.
Then you should understand personal stereotypes and judgements
sometimes hurt others greatly. People often formulate their perceptions
of others based on unrelated issues; color of skin, physical deficits,
etc. As a result of that, hatred is formulated according to pro-long
questioning of one's relation with others, and this ultimately lead to
alienation.
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Styrbiorn
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 09:51 |
Originally posted by Kids
Then you should understand personal stereotypes and judgements
sometimes hurt others greatly. People often formulate their perceptions
of others based on unrelated issues; color of skin, physical deficits,
etc. As a result of that, hatred is formulated according to pro-long
questioning of one's relation with others, and this ultimately lead to
alienation.
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True, but whom of the three currently logged-in people (one being me) just voted for "Western Europeans" 5-6 times? I hope it wasn't you, throwing whole mountains around in a glasshouse...
This topic do deserve a close, but apparently it need to be discussed anyway - not in the original "who hates the blacks"-form though, but in a more general one. I do think there was a topic about it earlier, but it was probably from before the forums got deleted, and I couldn't find it.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 09:56 |
There's an error with this poll, you can vote an infinite number of times.
Anyway, this topic should better be closed.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 11:49 |
I agree, I think this topic should be closed. I see nothing but more fighting as a result of it.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 13:48 |
Depends where you are.
In parts of London its the Indians and Chinese. East European soccer fans seem to have a big problem too.
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coolstorm
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 13:48 |
chill guys. this topic is not meant to set up any fight.
racism is bad. but in order for us to know more about it, we have to discuss it. the trueth is racism still exists today in most parts of the world.
if we keep avoiding the probem, it's not gonna solve anything out. avoiding isn't a solution to anything but actually helps the growth of racism among young people.
i am just curious. what made you think the Chinese are the most racist? you said it was from your own experience. what was ur experience?
i actually have a similar thought somehow.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 13:50 |
Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli
There's an error with this poll, you can vote an infinite number of times.
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The polls have been buggy for a while, some sort of work, some don't. Might as well remove the feature.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 13:59 |
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MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli wrote:
There's an error with this poll, you can vote an infinite number of times.
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This feature allows the polls to tell the minds of people.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 14:01 |
Yeah right
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 14:31 |
from the time it took me to read this whole thread
and refreshed it, someone voted for w.europeans 24 times.
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Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 20:09 |
I've lived in the middle east and east asia and both are reallly racist to a level most westerners (even spanish) could not tolerate. Examples include far easterners employing black western expert employees asking them to stand aside during the company photo shoot whilst putting the white westerners centre frame.
Countries in europe shouldn't be lumped together. In eastern europe I remember telling people about apartide in the 90's and the locals failing to see what was actuallly wrong with it,some commentying what a goood idea. In western europe a lot of countries are experiencing immigration for the first time. Spain is currently being used as an example a racism, but compare Spain to America in for the first 200 years of it's immigration, Spain's problems are trivial.
In Europe even the heavily immigrated to countries supposedly free from racism such as England. There's the new realisation about racism just happening, while racism is so taboo amongst white people, non white people can be racist themselves. A recent documentary on UK tv about racism showed Britain's huge Asian population (that's East Indians to Americans) were stunningly prejudiced towards Afro-Carribeans and my very own local area has the worst racist attacks in the country. The attacks victims were British born Afro-Carribeans who were living in fear, being petrol bombed, knifed' in streets or abused in the streets by chants of 'nigger' if they left their homes. Who were the abusers? Skinheads? No! Somalian refugees who've moved into the area by the thousand who see themselves superior to 'really' black people.
From personal experience while I admit the westerners (white and black) are far from racism free, we in this flawed world we live in are definately far more along the road to freeing ourselves from prejudice than anywhetre else.
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Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 00:12 |
Again - I also agree with Kids, Styrb, MixT (have you thought of rapping under that name?) and Cornellia (not a good name for a rapper - stick to being empress - ) the Mods should consider closing this thread.
To pose the question itself is to ask for an answer based not on any rational facts but on personal prejudices - eliciting the very response that the question implies it is addressing. This sort of inflammatory question almost guarantees that feelings will be hurt, people will be insulted and tempers will flare. if not intentionally inflammatory to begin with, the glitch in the polls certainly makes it fair game for anyone wanting to start a flame war or to bash a particular group - as has already happened in this poll.
I had already posted a reply here saying that and returned to find my post gone? My views were never the most popular - especially when I get up on my soapbox and ask folks to behave responsibly.
I have forwarded a request to the mods to monitor this thread and lock it if necessary.
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Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 05:21 |
Western Europeans definately.
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Posted: 21-Nov-2004 at 01:49 |
Originally posted by Catt
from the time it took me to read this whole thread and refreshed it, someone voted for w.europeans 24 times. |
Apparently someone feels very strong about this issue!
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Posted: 21-Nov-2004 at 16:55 |
Its a bit of a silly thread, but I liked Pauls post above, and wouldn't
mind hearing some more examples of racism you have witnessed or even
racism that you have had directed against you personally, it cant hurt
to talk more about this subject, and it might help us all to understand
better.
Just ignore the actual poll which is way distorted (someone has a grudge, please, tell us why...)
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Posted: 21-Nov-2004 at 16:58 |
in fact, I deleted the poll, it was just pointless...
tell your experiences and stories please, positive as well as negative would be nice...
and as the first post reference a modern day incident, it seems like
this thread belongs in this forum rather than the History forum.
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