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Topic: What does Turkish sound like to non-Turks Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 21:29 |
gh - kh thick throat sounds don't exist in Turkish maybe in some dialects(Eastern)
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Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 21:34 |
As I recall it is interesting and the sound of Turkish in song is delightfull to the ears. I was listening to some Turkish music and I enjoyed some of it. I know it is non-Indo European but how it sounds to me as a native English speaker-hmmm!! I will have to listen to it again.
I also enjoy Spanish and Greek in song and I can speak some Spanish. I wouldn't mind learning Turkish but the only way to learn a language is going there.
My late grandfather was born in E. Thrace which is part of Turkey.
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Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 21:43 |
Originally posted by Jhangora
I like Turkish songs,especially Ibrahim Tatlises. | Ibrahim Tatlises doesn't represent the Turkish music nor the Turkish language.In fact you may consider him one the murderers of Turkish language.His accent could easily pass for Arabic.I remember having hard times to understand what he was saying or singing about.Of course it's all profit that's why he is famous not only in Turkey but among Arabic countries as well.
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 04:03 |
Turkish sounds like somebody drowning but speaking while he's coming up and down the surface.
I like turkish, but i find the sounds very rare, they come from the down of the throat. No offence but it sounds a little like this:
Uldum gldum chock yorum bldum, LEN.
What does "len" mean and why do always put it at the end of what you say.
Cheers.
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 07:09 |
If you are intending to say "LER" it's a plural suffix. If you really mean "LEN" it's kind of an informal addressing word.
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 07:30 |
I mean "LEN" as in:
"Git len!"
In greek the equivalent - I think - is "Re" (as in "tinkanis RE mal*ka?").
serefe LEN.
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 07:37 |
He he, then the second meaning. Sana da serefe len!
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 08:49 |
Though It is debatable how many speakers of Istanbul Turkish are there in Sweden
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 09:56 |
Well... not many, I presume. The large majority of Turks in Sweden are from the country side, which is normal. It was the poorest ones the emigrated.
In fact, many are from a village called "KOLO" (spelled KULU). This village is being developed thanks to all the capital flows that are pumped in by the swedish-turks. Today, they refer to it as "Kolofornia" (this is true).
One problem is that many have been raised by their parents in the "old tradition" - you can imagine it better than me - small turkish village mentality. Anyway, many of them are good people that realized that they have to adapt to modern society.
I'm sorry, I don't have the time to edit the map, but if you want to look it up it's right next to Lake Tuz Gl (does that mean "Salt lake" ?).
They are know for their accent and changing every "k" into "g":
instead of saying "kuz" (young girl or girl) they say "guz".
When i went to Turkey (Istanbul, Izmir, Cesme, Pamukkale...) i really enjoyed it and found the native turks much more open minded and generous, i felt very welcomed (i know my swedish currency had something to do with it).
Cheers.
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 10:28 |
In fact, many are from a village called "KOLO" (spelled KULU). This village is being developed thanks to all the capital flows that are pumped in by the swedish-turks. Today, they refer to it as "Kolofornia" (this is true).
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Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 12:14 |
Well, in my ears turkish sound like a can that falls of the stairs its not an insult!ireally mean it-sounds like the tune reduces from the start to the end of a phrase or smth.like that. In greek there are turkish words,but sound very informal,and with many b,g,d. Also the u (umlaut) sounds strange.
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Posted: 04-Feb-2006 at 21:32 |
Originally posted by sedamoun
Turkish sounds like somebody drowning but speaking while he's coming up and down the surface.
I like turkish, but i find the sounds very rare, they come from the down of the throat. No offence but it sounds a little like this:
Uldum gldum chock yorum bldum, LEN.
What does "len" mean and why do always put it at the end of what you say.
Cheers. |
lan = len = dude
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 00:56 |
In greek there are turkish words,but sound very informal,and with many b,g,d. Also the u (umlaut) sounds strange. |
Armenian, especially its' Western variation, also has some Turkish words, but those words didn't even make it to the dictionary... Most of those words have Armenian synonyms, but some people still use them. Words like:
Hayd, isht, ama, pis, janem, yavrem, chojoukh, nn, etc.
Many Armenian dishes have Turkish names, and some of them don't even have Armenian synonyms:
Keuft, Sini Keuft, Sarma, Dolma, jiger, boyreg, etc.
Turkish swear words are very popular too.
It's a bit ironic, if you know what I mean...
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 10:15 |
It's a bit ironic, if you know what I mean... |
I think such tensions, hate, etc. can only happen between very close and similar peoples. I know that I can get along very well with an Armenian or Greek much better than with any American, Swiss, etc. We'd better establish a new tie of friendship on the basis of peace...
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 10:17 |
Also many Armenians' mother tongue was Turkish and they even today know Turkish very well...
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 10:43 |
My great-great grandmother spoke Turkish only, and didn't know any Armenian. My mother and my grandparents had to speak Turkish with her.
I don't think it was because she loved Turkish so much.
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 10:50 |
Most probably she didn't love the Turkish state but she might be loving the Turkish language. Although creators of it werre "barbarian" it's a nice language. By the way, which city was she from?
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 12:08 |
It is said that she was from Sassoun, which is the Armenian name for the mountainous area near Moush, but I'm not sure. She might have been from Samsun too.
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 12:36 |
Most probably she's from Sassoon...
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Posted: 05-Feb-2006 at 12:53 |
Originally posted by Artaxiad
In greek there are turkish words,but sound very informal,and with many b,g,d. Also the u (umlaut) sounds strange. |
Armenian, especially its' Western variation, also has some Turkish words, but those words didn't even make it to the dictionary... Most of those words have Armenian synonyms, but some people still use them. Words like:
Hayd, isht, ama, pis, janem, yavrem, chojoukh, nn, etc.
Many Armenian dishes have Turkish names, and some of them don't even have Armenian synonyms:
Keuft, Sini Keuft, Sarma, Dolma, jiger, boyreg, etc.
Turkish swear words are very popular too.
It's a bit ironic, if you know what I mean...
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Greeks ad -is -os to the end of the loaned words, what does Armenians add? -yan(?) because many names and such is ending with -yan in Armenian
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