African lion vs Grizzly Bear

as for the spammer who is just trying to cover up the sources previously showed of the lions bite force, the lion that used in that study was a 2 year old juvinile and nearly maneless lion done by Mr Brady barr:

who he had his own show:

The record bite as shown on the previous page by a lion was nearly 10,000 newtons, there is no record on hand of tigers even biting 5,000 newtons, which would be just half the lions biting strength, as shown, the lion has a much stronger breaking point, a bigger skull and refferences that show its psi range, it would be illogical to think that a tiger who has a smaller skull, weaker canine breaking point and hunts much smaller animals on average, which all points to a weaker jaw strength over all, toppled in with its longer fangs, in terms breaking point, anyone can test this theory, break a fully long pencil, than take a pencil the size of half of your finger and try to break that one, the shorter will be nearly impossible to break, while the longer one snaps as easy a s twig.

And heres another account between a (as stated) huge bear:

Sadly for all the time tigers have lived with bears, there isnt a single account of a siberian tiger killing a full grown male, which suspects it to being out of the tigers capabilitys, ambush or not...for the same reason a tiger couldnt just ambush a sleeping bull elephant and kill it. The size and knowledge of bears habits would be too great for the tiger to want to challange, if any bear was in the same vicinity of lions like tigers usually are, I would assume there would be reportings of the hundreds where bears are killed.

I am having difficulties not only with the Tigris account , but also the Kratos one .  I am not on here to pollute your threads . 

1 . J.A.W, you will not refrain me from the postings I have written on the tiger emerging victorious over a lion . My posts are more on a scholarly basis . You don't want to accept facts . Who spoke of the Jungle Book? I called the tiger the king of the jungle , and it has nothing to do with Rudyard Kipling . 

2. Thank you for giving me the name of the martial arts derived after the lion .  Does Lion Roar technique constitute one  of the 5 Kung Fu disciplines of fighting ? You will probably answer yes but the truth is it doesn't . Now I did accept there is a martial after the lion , though a secondary one. l I never said there wasn't one.

3. Then you have come to biting force again . Why repeat points made over and over ? As CV said it becomes repetitive and boring .  But since you said this : '& inspite of sharing significantly advantageous  primary carnivore jaw/dentition & power biting prowess over even larger body weight bears, lions do show harder biting characteristics than their tiger cousins.. ..'       

I would like to state fact , not personal opinion on this . 

From  http://listverse.com/2012/11/05/top-10-animal-bites-that-will-completely-destroy-you/

And the tiger ranks at 9 with a bite force of 1050 psi . 

 You got personal with me on the Sikh Akali topic by saying it was ironical that the word singh means lion and that was uncalled for . Well at least I have not called the lion derogatory names as you and another pollutant have . You keep calling the tiger sneaky and treacherous .  In my posts I have not once called a lion any derogatory word . 

The tiger's power and striking swipes have surely been emulated by humans in kung fu and other martial art disciplines. 

(Just read this post) so I just want to say this ........    You are right J.A.W about there being a specific thread for that - But I was merely responding to the unattested claim of the lion being the king of the beasts when confronted not only with the bear family but ANY of the felidae family , which obviously includes the tiger first before any of the other felidaes. That was very cleverly put in this thread , a very sneaky way to attack the strong and beautiful and ferocious tiger once again. Which is why I wrote it here . Why are you picking on it almost over a month later . Leave your personality out of this.

The tiger is an apex land predator with superb striking skills and is able to swim in water . And I disagree with your statement about the records held by Leo ....Some of these olden day fights staged were between a male lion and a female tiger . Prime in his findings has not been smart enough to distinguish a tigress and a male tiger.

And according to Martial's records of lion - tiger duels in ancient Rome,  the tiger was the winner. Advantage Panthera Tigris.

For the record CV I am not going around on topics looking for someone and snipping. I like the saying Silence is Golden and I will try to implement it .