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Topic: Macedonian words in Hindi Posted: 07-Feb-2012 at 21:02 |
[QUOTE=medenaywe]Slavic "I" meant First(He/She/It) or The First depends of raise of voice,before language was created in 9th century.In scripts are "i" and "I" respectively. [QUOTE]
"I" in Old Slavonic is "азъ",
pronounced as "az". The first letter of the Old Slavonic language was "A" and "азъ" was the full name of the letter A.
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Posted: 01-Feb-2012 at 04:59 |
Hindu people came here.We have always been where we are now!They have tried to make world India during last 2000 and more years:world of casts in which their supreme position is non disputable.Other way =war!
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Posted: 22-Feb-2011 at 05:21 |
Slavic "I" meant First(He/She/It) or The First depends of raise of voice,before language was created in 9th century.In scripts are "i" and "I" respectively.
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Posted: 05-Aug-2008 at 09:52 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
Old Persian was written from left to right, "Baga vazraka Auramazda" (God Great Ahura Mazda), you know that "Ahura Mazda" was the supreme god of Zoroastrianism, the second word "Vazraka" or "Vazlika" (there was no sign for "l" sound" in the Old Persian) can be compared to Slavic "Velika" which means "Great". |
Thanks for the explanation Shahmiri .
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Posted: 05-Aug-2008 at 08:15 |
Old Persian was written from left to right, "Baga vazraka Auramazda" (God Great Ahura Mazda), you know that "Ahura Mazda" was the supreme god of Zoroastrianism, the second word "Vazraka" or "Vazlika" (there was no sign for "l" sound" in the Old Persian) can be compared to Slavic "Velika" which means "Great".
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Posted: 05-Aug-2008 at 00:41 |
Originally posted by Homer MakeDonski
[QUOTE=Cyrus Shahmiri]Look at this anecint Persian cuneiform inscription:
The first word is Baga (God) |
Indeed reading these symbols from left to right we do have b,ba; g ,ga ... baga but at the ancient times witting system used to be right to left ,isn't it ? If it is so the first symbols at the top right corner should be : a,a ;m.mi ; i ami for aMa .a Ma .. ?
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Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 23:57 |
Mentioning these Gods name titles into Hebrew ,lets compare for a bit EL -oah neutral gender Elohim -plural Adonai Elohim Adonai “While it is almost if not quite certain that the Name was originally pronounced ‘Yahweh,’ this pronunciation was not indicated when the Masoretes added vowel sound to the consonantal Hebrew text. To the four consonants YHWH of the Name, which had come to be regarded as too sacred to be pronounced, they attached the vowel signs indicating that in its place should be read the Hebrew word Adonai meaning ‘Lord’ (or Elohim meaning ‘God’).”3 YHWH I am who I am I am E L Donai I am El-ohim ,Adonai
I am Ma+Ma + Ma I am MaMa+*DuMa .... changes for ( m->n)
I am MaMa A Don ai I am MaMa Adonai I am MaMa Donia I am *MakE Donia I am Macedonia
_________________ Ref: [3] See The Holy Bible Containing the Old and New Testaments with the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical Books. New Revised Standard Version. New York/Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1989, p. xv. Notes -*DuMa- To think ,The Word -*MakE -Mothers -dualistic form
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Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 23:56 |
Finally Combination of previously and different at the first view Ma Goddesses pictographic scripts and as a result will gave us possible origin of Hebrew's EL explanation Hebrew: = El (God). So here we have E=Ma L =Ma EL=Ma+Ma EL=MaMa or Mama Internet source: http://net.lib.byu.edu/imaging/negev/Names.html
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Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 23:55 |
Such a powerful is this so called pre-Christian fish symbol ,what shows us not only someones adaptation but something much more,and much bigger Again from different angles observed ,as its about to claim I am the first and the last one I am who I am I am the only one I am m I am M I am Ma I am *MaMa I am *MaMaMa I am MakeDonia ;)
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Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 23:54 |
Lets move forward The pre-Christian history of the fish symbol: The fish symbol has been used for millennia worldwide as a religious symbol associated with the Pagan Great Mother Goddess. It is the outline of her vulva. The fish symbol was often drawn by overlapping two very thin crescent moons. One represented the crescent shortly before the new moon; the other shortly after, when the moon is just visible. The Moon is the heavenly body that has long been associated with the Goddess, just as the sun is a symbol of the God. The link between the Goddess and fish was found in various areas of the ancient world: # In China, Great Mother Kwan-yin often portrayed in the shape of a fish # In India, the Goddess Kali was called the "fish-eyed one" # In Egypt, Isis was called the Great Fish of the Abyss # In Greece the Greek word "delphos" meant both fish and womb. The word is derived from the location of the ancient Oracle at Delphi who worshipped the original fish goddess, Themis. The later fish Goddess, Aphrodite Salacia, was worshipped by her followers on her sacred day, Friday. They ate fish and engaging in orgies. From her name comes the English word "salacious" which means lustful or obscene. Also from her name comes the name of our fourth month, April. In later centuries, the Christian church adsorbed this tradition by requiring the faithful to eat fish on Friday - a tradition that was only recently abandoned. # In ancient Rome Friday is called "dies veneris" or Day of Venus, the Pagan Goddess of Love. # Throughout the Mediterranean, mystery religions used fish, wine and bread for their sacramental meal. # In Scandinavia, the Great Goddess was named Freya; fish were eaten in her honor. The 6th day of the week was named "Friday" after her. # In the Middle East, the Great Goddess of Ephesus was portrayed as a woman with a fish amulet over her genitals. The fish symbol "was so revered throughout the Roman empire that Christian authorities insisted on taking it over, with extensive revision of myths to deny its earlier female-genital meanings...Sometimes the Christ child was portrayed inside the vesica, which was superimposed on Mary's belly and obviously represented her womb, just as in the ancient symbolism of the Goddess." 4 Another author writes: "The fish headdress of the priests of Ea [a Sumero-Semitic God] later became the miter of the Christian bishops." 5The symbol itself, the eating of fish on Friday and the association of the symbol with deity were all taken over by the early Church from Pagan sources. Only the sexual component was deleted. And does this symbol have something to do with the letter M ,it's origin and possible meaning? Of course it does Lets see it from different angle Now lets doubled it and observed them trough it's variations as joined or via its different stilling like the one above or very similar another ones And here we are straight to the possible origin and meaning of what we will say now Capital M letter ! Ref: 4. B.G. Walker, "The Woman's Encyclopaedia of Myths and Secrets", Harper & Row, San Francisco CA (1983), Page 313-314 5. J.C. Cooper, op cit, Page 15. Internet source http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_symb.htm
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Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 23:53 |
Here let's say we have "The Three-One God" formula. I prefer that formula as part of my theses Ma+Ma+Ma,where first two Ma+Ma are =Make or dualistic form of Mother + Mother and the third Ma "coming" out of the our dialectic word DuMa with it's two meanings of -thinking and -the word All of that together as kind of *MaMaDuma concept provided in feminine gender,feather than Theology,its equal adopted as masculine form .
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Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 23:51 |
Letters m,M its origin and possible meanings For searching out of its origin and its possible meaning ,first of all we have to see its graphic construction where from we have three vertical lines ||| joined with few `` sighs ,back at the ancients times,from right to left written as |` |` |` Lets compare this symbols with the "Pictographic Vocabulary of the Words" used in the texts from the Thracian Tablets and some related Ideograms" from Dr. Stephen Guide's, “The Thracian Script Decoded -1"book ,where we could see some of similarity (R8)* God (A40; R8)* God (R8A)* The Three-One God (the Trinity, the gods) - (2) _____________________________________ * All hieroglyphs have been presented here with their alphabetical & numerical indices according to the GARDINER classification. (2)- In Hebrew Bible the word meaning “God” is also in the plural form (“Elohim”= “Gods”), but is always by definition translated as “God” (“ The One God”). In Arabic Koran, God also speaks always in plural “We, your God”, but it is always meant “The one God” (as “Allah” is accurately translated from Arabic). In Christian Tradition, the above visible “contradiction” (pl.vs sg.) is explained by the “Doctrine of the Holy Trinity” (i.e. God is One, but is three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)….1 So we are reading explanation of : |` = God Lets have a look What we do have are two sighs | and ` ,and Stephen Guide explanations of "meaning “God” and pronounced “Nooty”,in the Boharic (North Egyptian Coptic) Dialect 1",but we well ask ourselfs is it so? As far as we know for those ancient times two things must to be pointed : - matriarchy as kind of religious form and - cult of maternity According to those facts we must to have a bit of different description |` Goddess instead of |` God and Her very first recorded and shortest as well form of Ma So we may have | -consonant or "M" `-vowel or "a" joined together as the very first word |`= Ma If we would focused at the third pictures of "The Three-One God" or at the pictures above than we could see following situation |` |` |`where |->M ` ->a |`->Ma or |` + |` + |` -> Ma + Ma + Ma what is about of the letter m pictograph's form at those days written from right to left |` + |` + |` |`|`|` m Ref: 1-Dr. Stephen Guide, “The Thracian Script Decoded -1”, Institute o Transcendent Science, Sofia, 2006. page.120 Internet resource: http://www.institutet-science.com/dictb.htm
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Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 23:46 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
Look at this anecint Persian cuneiform inscription:
The first word is Baga (God) |
Dear Cyrus Shahmiri It is me again I will never forget your Makidany information. I have been searching for a while over the word Baga (God) Hopeful that you'll be interested at, so fare my searches are at it's feminine Ma form
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Posted: 21-Jul-2008 at 18:55 |
'Mir' in Russian has both meanings - 'peace' and 'world'. That's how come Tolstoy's 'Voina i Mir' is translated 'War and Peace', whereas Mayakovsky's 'Voina i Mir' is translated 'War and the World'.
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Posted: 21-Jul-2008 at 17:14 |
Originally posted by HEROI
What if their name really did not mean anything?Why should it mean something at any cost?
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Well, 99% it has a meaning, but the question is, in which language - it definitely isn't modern Macedonian Slavic.
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And why should it at any cost have some meaning in the modern Languages of the region? |
Agreed.
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Posted: 21-Jul-2008 at 17:11 |
I don't know whether they're cognates, but originally MIR is a Slavic word for 'world'. In Czech or Slovak, however, 'mír/mier' do mean peace.
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Posted: 21-Jul-2008 at 14:50 |
MIRE,MIR,MIRI,MIRA, is a word used in many languages,even in Slavic languages,in Russian it has meaning as well.Is most probably a Slavic word meaning peace,or something positive,since it has positive meaning in all languages used.In Albanian it means Good.
As for the word Dunya is definitely a word that has come to the balcans with the Ottoman ocupation.Is most probably Arabic and it means World.So a word that has come to Balcans very late with Islam can not be a word to explain the name of the Ancient Macedonians.
What if their name really did not mean anything?Why should it mean something at any cost?And why should it at any cost have some meaning in the modern Languages of the region?Maybe the Macedonians inherited this name from their ancestors and really did not know what it actually meant themselves.
As for Vardar river,it has something to do with water for sure,in Albanian Varda means lots of water flowing.So as we can see it has simmilar meanings in many languages,precisely because they are all indo-european languages.
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Posted: 13-Jul-2008 at 18:12 |
Curses! Thanks I didn't realise. You know I never read those tiny numbers that indicate the date.
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Posted: 13-Jul-2008 at 18:09 |
Hey, digging old threads make you satisfied!
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Posted: 13-Jul-2008 at 16:33 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
Who knows?! These words exist in Iranian languages from about 5,000 years ago. |
Impossible. Iranian languages are not that old (2nd mil. BC).
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