The Crusaders

Originally posted by Kevin Originally posted by JanusRook now they do irritate me (Christians fundes) but I do not see them blowing up people, No they just terrorize abortion clinics and their staff.... � The Chirstian Right is pretty bad, However violence among them is pretty low. In addition it can't be denied that Islamic radicals commit more violence then Chirstian fudementalists, This is mainly a question of stabilty with the Middle East being an unstable region of the world while the United States really isn't. � So overall I view this as a question of stabilty not religious ideals and doctrine.�

How are they bad? Is it because their agenda is different than your agenda? I thought that the article was interesting in that it used key words to demonize the Christian movement and make it look like a new threat to America's freedoms. Christianity has been part of this nation since the start and there have been many Christian movements throughout our short history, especially in the 19th c. I will admit that Christians irritate me but many of their moral values have been the glue that has kept America united throughout our history, till now.
I also got the feeling that this article is supported by pro gay groups which makes me understand why they would want to demonize Christians, they have a differeent agenda.

Everyone has an agenda! I agree the Middle East is a big factor and this is why we really need to start a manhatten like project for a real alternative source of fuel and then go tell the Arabs to take their oil and (blank) it. I do not think this is the agenda of the oil companies though!!

Originally posted by JanusRook now they do irritate me (Christians fundes) but I do not see them blowing up people, No they just terrorize abortion clinics and their staff....

Janus rock that is a poor example because it is only a few nut cases and the vast majority of Christians condemn it. This type of violence cannot be justified by the teaching or example of Christ and please do not take versus out of context that have only a spiritual application.

I, myself, have a universal view of God.
One mans way to Heaven is another man's way to Hell.

Of course you can't compare "Jihadist" with evangelical fundamentalists, the latter are far worse.

Al Jassas - you have got to be joking!! now they do irritate me (Christians fundes) but I do not see them blowing up people, stoning women for adultery who were raped, total theocracy in many Islamic countries. The USA was, at one time, a nation with a Christian world view. I agree some of the founding fathers were Deist but they still had a Christian foundation. I have never met a Christian who wants a theocracy and I know many. I realize also that most Muslims do not do these things.

I will try and find the time to get back to you on this

I agree with Akolouthos, good observation!

sorry so many things to do in life. I think it is funny how they use spiritual terms that really only apply to the spiritual realm such as Christians talking about the armor of God, it is very subjective. To compare them to modern jihadist is lame because because there is no comparison. Please do not bring up the few nut cases who are totally condemned by most Christians.

Originally posted by Voice of Reason Originally posted by Panther  If people are too be afraid of anything, then i think what they should really be afraid of is the "thing" that no one can possibly see coming?   Makes good sense Panther! But what is the "thing" that noone sees coming that your referring to? Something like a natural disaster that will probably be coming in the future that we should all be preparing for? (I'm not saying your specifying anything, just probing around for what it could be..)

Originally posted by Panther  If people are too be afraid of anything, then i think what they should really be afraid of is the "thing" that no one can possibly see coming?

Because relgious freedom was one of the bigest bases for the founding of the Nation. - It's no wonder why there are so many

I honestly believe that Europe has them too.. they're just not outspoken. Example though is the British Creationist group that is now going to schools and such.. i've forgotten the exact name, just read a article on it though.

Originally posted by Kevin I certainly don't want God's law or government but I don't want him pushed out of the picture ether.

The difference was that the Evangelicals were continuely getting stronger and moving thousands of votes in one direction. But I believe their power has been waning since the last election, I mean numbers dropping in support of those political organizations, and I say good ridence.