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    Posted: 03-Jan-2005 at 05:22
Originally posted by Tobodai

Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

Originally posted by Tobodai

nobody badmouth coca cola, they invented Santa Claus!


No, that's not true.
Santa Claus himself was derived from Sinterklaas (St. Nicholas), a traditional holiday in the Netherlands. Protestant Dutch colonists in America still wanted to celebrate Sinterklaas, but they didn't want to use a catholic saint. His current image was largely created by Washington Irving in the early 19th century.

 

no no no the modern guy who is fat and red with a beard is from coca cola I swear.

You're wrong. Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp

It's different in different countries too. Our 'santa', jultomten (christmas gnome, literally) was basicly derived in the 19th century by the poet Rydberg and painter Jenny Nystrm who made loads of Christmas cards with santas on them. As a sidenote, though St Nikolaus did not give his name to him, he did give it to the little helpers as shown on a Nystrm card below, who are called "nissar" (Nikolaus-Nils-Nisse, plural -ar ).

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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Jan-2005 at 05:08
Originally posted by Temujin

St. Nikolaus is still celebrated in Germany on 6th december and kids get chocolate and candy in socks or rather boots (not military ) that day. don't know why Americans mixed that with christmas.
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Jan-2005 at 05:07

Originally posted by Temujin

St. Nikolaus is still celebrated in Germany on 6th december and kids get chocolate and candy in socks or rather boots (not military )

      lol...imagine thousands of Santa's goosestepping through Berlin...

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Jan-2005 at 17:57
St. Nikolaus is still celebrated in Germany on 6th december and kids get chocolate and candy in socks or rather boots (not military ) that day. don't know why Americans mixed that with christmas.
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Jan-2005 at 17:44
Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

Originally posted by Tobodai

nobody badmouth coca cola, they invented Santa Claus!


No, that's not true.
Santa Claus himself was derived from Sinterklaas (St. Nicholas), a traditional holiday in the Netherlands. Protestant Dutch colonists in America still wanted to celebrate Sinterklaas, but they didn't want to use a catholic saint. His current image was largely created by Washington Irving in the early 19th century.

 

no no no the modern guy who is fat and red with a beard is from coca cola I swear.

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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Jan-2005 at 09:58

Originally posted by Catt

Japan just raised them, $500m.

This is going to turn into, 'who is the most generous?'.

That easily happen when the heads of the UN call the West "stingy". They can shove that statement though, the Red Cross here has now collected 50-60 million dollars from private persons, which is about 10 dollars for each persont above 18. At least the population could do something good to counter the lousy reaction of the government.

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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jan-2005 at 22:09
Japan just raised them, $500m.

This is going to turn into, 'who is the most generous?'.
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  Quote J.M.Finegold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jan-2005 at 16:47
The United States raised their pledge to 350 million (source is CNN).
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jan-2005 at 16:41
Originally posted by Tobodai

nobody badmouth coca cola, they invented Santa Claus!


No, that's not true.
Santa Claus himself was derived from Sinterklaas (St. Nicholas), a traditional holiday in the Netherlands. Protestant Dutch colonists in America still wanted to celebrate Sinterklaas, but they didn't want to use a catholic saint. His current image was largely created by Washington Irving in the early 19th century.
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jan-2005 at 15:56

nobody badmouth coca cola, they invented Santa Claus!

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I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value."
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  Quote Bryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jan-2005 at 09:53

Originally posted by babyblue

bout time they did something good....
They do good things, they just don't like to talk about it... I'm positive that they do something good... honest!

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And yes, that would be the medicine company.

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Originally posted by Cornellia

US aid is up to $350 million.

I heard today that Pfizer has pledged 35 million and that the Red Cross raised 18 million in 3 days in the US.

And one young boy in Washington State opened a hot chocolate stand to help raise money and raised $225 in a few hours.  

Pfizer? Medicine company, yes?

 

Just read that the Red Cross has raised 10 million dollars here.

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  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 20:10
Koreans are stingy...Sk gave only about 1.4 million dollars...there was even a news bit on how ashamed the people were...
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  Quote Cornellia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 19:35

US aid is up to $350 million.

I heard today that Pfizer has pledged 35 million and that the Red Cross raised 18 million in 3 days in the US.

And one young boy in Washington State opened a hot chocolate stand to help raise money and raised $225 in a few hours.  

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  Quote John Doe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 10:17
its hard to say with a lo9t of these lists

some list the monmey from thre countryiess perspect9ve, others translate it to US dollars first, the list I possted above was all in US dollars, hence the difference between the Canadian  and Australian dollar figures.

btw, happy new year for those still happy enough to celebrate.
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 10:01
Originally posted by Styrbiorn

 CocaCola has donated $10m


      bout time they did something good....

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  Quote dark_one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 08:17
 Russia has contributed little to this as it seems. I guessFfreign aid (and money in general) is not something we can spend lightly.
Did you hear about our new anti asteroid system which will take 10 billion dollars to build?

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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 07:55

Just sent a small symbolic (I am supposed to be a poor student after all...) gift  to the local Red Cross. Took quite a while though, since the servers were overloaded. Hopefully the Swedish Government will compensate for the worthless early reaction from the UD(Foreign Department). For starters the head of the dep. went to the theater when she heard about the disaster instead of doing her job. The always so mild state minister is said to be furious about the whole mess though, so maybe something will happen soon.

A little updated list.

  • World Bank: $250m
  • UK: $96m
  • Sweden: $75m
  • Spain: $69m
  • China: $63m
  • France: $57m
  • Canada: $59m
  • EU: $44m
  • Japan: $40m
  • Netherlands: $36m
  • US: $35m
  • Australia: $33m
  • Germany: $26m
  • Switzerland: $22m
  • Denmark: $18.3m
  • Norway: $16.4m
  • Portugal: $11m
  • Saudi Arabia: $10m
  • Holy See: $6m
  • Taiwan: $5.1m
  • Italy: $3.9m
  • Finland: $3.4m
  • Kuwait: $2.1m
  • UAE: $2m
  • Ireland: $1.3m
  • Austria: $1.3m
  • Luxembourg: $1.3m
  • Singapore: $1.2m
This is only governmental aid, organizations and private givings not included. Also, numerous other contributions are made - just saw on the news the US has directed a fleet to the area, that CocaCola has donated $10m and my local bank another million dollar.




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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 06:08
Im sorry, but the next person from some organization that says anything again in the wake of all this, should just stfu and either reach in his/her own pocket or roll up their sleeves.


Couldn't agree more, a well timed airplane of emercency medical supplies can achieve more than some cash in the hands of officials who may not even spend it wisely.
Besides, there is talk of upwards of 500 million having been pledged so far, and it can only grow as time passes.
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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Dec-2004 at 04:09
The US has incrementally been raising the contributions as the death toll and damage has risen. GW doesnt have a stack of blank checks. Powell and Jeb Bush are heading there to access the situation now. You cant immediately start throwing hundreds of millions of dollars aimlessly towards Southeastern Asia. The last i checked, India had denied any monetary assistance saying it could take care of itself. They definately will receive help in some fashion.

Yes, i think factoring the ships and plane drops ect., is important but not because of the cost but because it shows that the US can physically get in there and help.
What would be nice is to see some of these oversized cooperations publicly donate.

Im sorry, but the next person from some organization that says anything again in the wake of all this, should just stfu and either reach in his/her own pocket or roll up their sleeves.

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