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    Posted: 21-Aug-2010 at 11:31
Originally posted by eaglecap


Why don't you answer my question?


What question?

Frankly, and generally speaking, if you are a person that wants to deny Muslims the right to build an community center two blocks away from ground zero, than there is something fundamentally wrong with you.
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  Quote DreamWeaver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Aug-2010 at 07:45
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If any of you wish, you should look at the reliefs found in the temple at Medinet Habu, in Egypt,which supposedly depicts the war fought by some one whom is today identified with Rameses III, where by the panels of inscription show the Egyptians cutting off the hand(s?), of the conquered People of the Sea and their allies!

Does this practice actually predate Islam?



Method of counting, people only have one right hand (usually) its that or a penis.
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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2010 at 19:46
Originally posted by TheGreatSimba

We have a constitution, here is the first amendment of that constitution:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof
; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.<span></span>Deal with it, this is the United States of America, not the Confederate States of America.


Why don't you answer my question? This is not a First Amendment issue and it would not win in the courts. There is a Christian group that has sued every time some city planning commission has denied the construction of a church and they keep losing the case.

I ask again would you care so much if this was some Christian group and what about the rebuilding of the Greek Orthodox Church, which was destroyed 9/11-????

Is the U.S. Constitution a living document to you?

Here is a great interview with Walid Shoebat, a former PLO


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2010 at 17:37
Cyrus earlier wrote;

"I think the religious freedom in the USA is well known in the world but I'm talking about Islamic violence everywhere in the world even in the USA, the reason can be that Islam doesn't teach us the tolerance!

"Fight those who believe not in Allah, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the true religion (Islam) from among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jaziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 29)

But if you fight:

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land Is: 'Execution, or Crucifixion, or the Cutting and Removing Off of hands and feet from OPPOSITE sides, or exile from the land.' That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter." (Quran: Al-Ma'idah: 5 - 33)"

If any of you wish, you should look at the reliefs found in the temple at Medinet Habu, in Egypt,which supposedly depicts the war fought by some one whom is today identified with Rameses III, where by the panels of inscription show the Egyptians cutting off the hand(s?), of the conquered People of the Sea and their allies!

Does this practice actually predate Islam?
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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2010 at 17:09
Originally posted by TheGreatSimba

We have a constitution, here is the first amendment of that constitution:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof
; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.<span></span>Deal with it, this is the United States of America, not the Confederate States of America.


It is talking about the freedom of worship and religious expression. A city zoning commission can deny any permit for a church or Mosque to be constructed, if they so choose. They can build their Mosque but not on ground zero and if they are really interested in an interfaith outreach, like they claim, then why can't the relocate it. Just like Agia Sophia, the Cathedral in Cordoba and many Hindu Temples they want to construct their victory mosque on sacred ground. It is a slap in the face of those who perished on 9/11 and 70% of Americans oppose its contraction of ground zero. Funny, how the already existing Greek Church, which was destroyed 9/11, cannot rebuilt. TGS you have admitted to disliking religion, so why do you care so much. If this was a church by some Christian fundamental group would you feel the same way, probably not.

Edited by eaglecap - 19-Aug-2010 at 19:31
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  Quote InTheFade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2010 at 05:38
Just as dangerous as everyone else. Being Muslim does not make them dangerous but the pathological, psychopaths and ignorant that exist in every group.
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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 19:57
Ok, so you do not believe in freedom of speech. Therefore, you do not believe in the 1st Amendment of the United States. Tea Partier for sureLOL

DOUBLE THINK.


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 19:31
As it is applied in the Constitution of the U.S.A,, YES!

As it applies to the "seperate" states it is up to them and their interpretation of Constitutional Rights!

As I said earlier, our founders figured out that citizens could "vote with their feet!"
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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 18:34
You failed to answer the question:

Do you or do you not believe in freedom of religion?


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 18:31
Hail to our first, last and best president!

Jefferson Davis, from Kentucky!

Oh! That just happens to be the same state that Abraham Lincoln came from!

Oh well?

Does the above make me "delusional?"
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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 18:11
How does your logic makes sense to you? You say you love America and you love the Constitution, yet you just said above that you are against freedom of religion...that goes directly against the Constitution.

This is double think.

doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting as correct two mutually contradictory beliefs.

Do you or do you not support freedom of religion? I do not think you are an American (as in a supporter of the United States). I think you have led yourself to believe that the South actually won the Civil War. You, are living in a delusional world where you are a proud American citizen of the CSA.


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 18:10
It is most obvious to me, as a lover of America, speaking to a hater of America, that you and your minions, are the ones who whould discard the Constitution of the USA, like a used rubber!

Cum back at me, if you can?
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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 17:57
So you disagree with freedom of religion? I'm not surprised one bit hearing such a thing from a person like you. Unfortunately for you, and like I have mentioned before, this isnt the Confederate States of America, deal with it. Fact is, Americans believe in freedom of speech. As a non-American, I understand why this confuses you.

This is why I know the Tea Party is a sham. They yell and scream about the Constitution, yet they are against everything in it.


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2010 at 16:31
You might well notice "minor Simba" that the above words describe the term "Congress!", which specifically identifies that group of elected representavies that reside in the National Congress of the USA!

Meanwhile, local semi-independent States, my well pass almost anything that they please!

Remember, that voters were ultimately expected to "vote with their feet!"

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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 17:56
We have a constitution, here is the first amendment of that constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Deal with it, this is the United States of America, not the Confederate States of America.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 16:51
So, Moslems want to build a Mosque nearby to gound-zero in NYC! It is reportedly to be built for "peace!" Sounds great, does it not?

And, to show my opinion, I would let the following speak for me!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html

But, I tend to think that my opion might well be a minority opinion on this site?



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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jul-2010 at 14:59
If every major religion in the world was run by a group who only thought of themselves as the "sacred religion" then the world might already be destroyed?

Religion as a political animal is a very wicked animal! Political thought, that consideres its precepts, etc., as the only way to a "perfect state" are no different! Political thought, today, is much like the "religious" thought of the past!

The State, and the Ideals of the State, have only replaced a God, with an anti-God!

Just my two cents worth, and today, it is not worth much!
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  Quote tzar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jul-2010 at 11:07
If during the 11 century internet existed the muslims would ask  -Why Catholics are dangerous people?
Differently times, differently people, differently ideals, but one think is sure - the stupidity doesn't go in the forest, but people. I'm sure if the Pope  today call a Crusade to Jerusalem there would be  thousand of voluntaries. Then you would ask yourself - are we nuts or they?
 
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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Mar-2010 at 15:17
Like I said I will post anything positive about Muslims in the USA because not all Muslims are evil, there are some groups I respect.

Religious tolerance starts at home
By M. Zuhdi Jasser

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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Mar-2010 at 13:31

agree with you, religous influence towards violence is far more pervasive in Islam today. There is nothing, however, intrinsic about Chrsitianity (sister religion to Islam) that prevents Pastors or Priests from directly or indirectly promoting violence. I dont doubt that you have sat through more sermons than me.

That can be true and I have heard of Cults in the USA being violent or contolling over their members. Overall, I never saw this in most churches. I just thought they were too narrow minded and the idea of other good: Muslims, Hindus, Mormons, and other people of faith going to Hell forever was wrong. I cannot see God being so cruel but that is only my opinion.

I believe Mormonism would have possibly turned violent if they had remained isolated. The conquest of Mexican territories changed this. I almost became one when I was younger but my Greek Orthodox mother would not allow their missionaries to come into our house. I did study some of their older theology which they deny now but we need to get back to the question in hand.

Why Muslims are a dangerous people?!

I would rather this say, why are some Muslims a dangerous people? The question lumps them all together but I realize this is not what Cyrus meant.

Cyrus please tell us more about your experiences so we can better understand.   I really did not have any issues overseas but Turkiye was more liberal- 2006.
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