-- The Concentric circles royal island capital City of Atlantis. --
We we first started looking for the large island of Atlantis we narrowed down out of the whole world where Atlantis can be and we found that it can only be in the Americas. Then we looked all around the Americas for where the plain and city could be and found that oly Peru/Bolivia possibly matches. Finally we searched all around Peru and lake Titicaca and eventually found that Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku positively matches the capital city of Atlantis. Our Atlantis location matches all the details of the Account such as size, direction, distance, mountains, plain, concentric circles city, etc. Here we show how the concentric circles city matches Tiahuanaco.
"... and breaking the ground, inclosed the hill in which she dwelt all round, making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another; there were two of land and three of water, which he turned as with a lathe, each having its circumference equidistant every way from the centre...." Critias 113e. "First of all they bridged over the zones of sea which surrounded the ancient metropolis.... .... Moreover, they divided at the bridges the zones of land which parted the zones of sea.... Now the largest of the zones into which a passage was cut from the sea was three stadia in breadth, and the zone of land which came next of equal breadth; but the next two zones, the one of water, the other of land, were two stadia, and the one which surrounded the central island was a stadium only in width. The island in which the palace was situated had a diameter of five stadia." Critias 115d-116a.
There are evidences in the ground of concentric rings at Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku: - Maps/diagrams of Tiahuanaco from Posnansky (and Sithcin and Alford) show at least one or two of the concentric circles. This was one of the evidences that forced me to have to accept that Tiahuanaco is the Atlantis capital city site. See: http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=33831.msg258213#msg258213 http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=284;image http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=287;image www.condoramericano.com.ar/historia/Tiahuanaco.htm . - Written descriptions of Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku also mention "Its ceremonial core was surrounded by a moat, and the earth and clay which had been excavated from the moat ...", "... the canals which surround the site ...", "the artificial canal (or moat) ... that surrounded the whole site". - "The elites of Tiwanaku lived inside four walls surrounded by a moat which was to create the image of a sacred island / holiest of shrines" (Tiahuanaco article). Palacio enclosed by double ring of earthworks (Tiahuanaco/Calasasaya)? - Tiwanaku is also named Taypicala/Taypi-kala "stone/rock in the middle/centre", and is "considered the middle of [the(ir)] world" by locals. - Tiahuanaco has been called the "American Stonehenge". (Compare Mystery Hill, and Gobekli Tepe.) - Books mention evidences that Tiahuanaco/Akapana was a great seaport and was once connected with the waters of Titicaca/Huinaymarca lake/sea (refs include Daniken, Alford). - "There were two Tiahuanacos, one the visible ruins, the other the subterranean and invisible." (This could match either/both the concentric rings and/or the sinking of Atlantis.)
Tiahuanaco also has matches for the sizes/distances of the central island and the rings of Atlantis city. The central island of Atlantis city was 5 stades (half a mile). The whole city of Atlantis was 50 stades (9.2 km, or "5 (& a 1/2) miles") radius (the distance from the citadel to the sea), or 22 km diameter. People must note that a stade/stadium is uncertainly variously either 157/150 m (Greek), 185/180 m or 606 ft (Roman), 177/170 m (Attic), 192 m (Olympic), 209/200 m (Egyptian), 211 m (Greek). (Jim Allen argues for half a stade since Peru/Bolivia had a base 20 not a base 10 numeric system.) Tiwanaku "sits in a 3 miles width trough". The "sacred city of Tiahuanaco covered 2 square miles". The central core island or "greater metropolis" of Tiahuanaco is almost "2 x 1 miles". Pumapinku is "almost a mile to the south-west" of the centre. "the artificial canal (or moat), some 100 feet wide, that surrounded the whole site" of central Tiahuanaco. Tiahuanaco city is "6.5 sq kms maximum". Kimsa Chata / Quimsa-chata is 15 km or 10-12 miles southeast of/from [Tiahuanaco or Titicaca]? Tiahuanaco is now 10/12/13 miles/km from the lake. One source says 13 miles from Titicaca. Another source says "Tiahuanaco 12 miles south of Titicaca"? Another source says Tiahuanaco 10 miles from Titicaca. The stones of central Tiahuanaco were "transported tens of miles from the nearest quarries" "some ten miles away". A quarry 10 km away [from Tiahuanaco]. The exact distance from the lake to the city was abit different in ancient times. It is attested that Tiahauanco was once connected to lake Titicaca. One source says Tiahuanaco is a few miles from Titicaca. Tiahuanaco is described as a "vast area", "several square miles in area", and/or greater Tiahuanaco (including Pumapunku etc) stretches "for miles". (The main buildings/parts of Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku include: Akapana (central island), Akapana East, Kalasasaya (central island), the "semi-subterranean temple" or Kantatayita temple (central island), Kheri Kala, Putuni, Pumapunku (inner ring or central island?), Lukurmata "temple" (outer ring near lake Titicaca).)
(Remember that there is evidence that the Andes were pushed/pulled up abit higher in ancient times, and that there were quakes at Tiahuanaco, and that there was a flood at Tiahuanaco and to the south of Titicaca, and the site is described as "... many more still lie buried in the ground under layers of sediment...", and Lissner (after Posnansky) says Tiahuanaco is covered in lava, so the geography is going to be a little bit different now.)
Other Peruvian/Andean sites also have similar features/names: Kenko "twisting channels". Chingana "labyrinth". 3 carved channels between Ilyapa temple & rainbow temple (Cuzco)? Cerro Santo Vilca / Pampa Aullagas by Poopo in Bolivia has 3 sandy channels separated by rings of land (Jim Allen).
We also have local pictures confirming that the concentric circles city was in Peru/Bolivia. - The Inca picture from the Coricancha depicts half a dozen to a dozen details of the Atlantis Account in it, including the concentric circles city on the lower left (the globe/circle/"earth-symbol/Pachamama" & "rainbow/arch"), and also possibly the concentric circles city in the left side of the lake/sea on the lower right, and also possibly the city as the dot at the end of the line/canal extending from the lake on the lower right? See: www.labyrinthina.com/inca.altar01 http://galacticdoor2011.blog.com/files/2011/12/gold-map-in-coricancha.jpg http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=277;image http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=33831.msg258222#msg258222 http://f.tqn.com/y/archaeology/1/S/7/_/1/coricancha-altar.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bjmO_QlWUWg/T7Hgo3qHuOI/AAAAAAAAADw/QAxP_NQvw3Q/s320/Altar+de+Coricancha.jpg - An inscription from Pumapunku (part of Tiahuanaco) shows the concentric circles. See: http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=33831.msg258214#msg258214 http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=288;image - There are concentric circles symbols ("geometric .... circles and ovals") on the gateway of the sun at Tiahuanaco (in Posnansky's drawings). See: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/reinosperdidos/reinosperdidos10.htm - Uru/Chipaya/Coipasa village concentric organisation. - The Sillustani inscription (from n.w. Titicaca) shows the concentric circles city (the "spiral") and possibly the cliff/s (the wedge shape)? See: http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=33831.msg258214#msg258214 http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=290;image - The "radiating cross" in a petroglyph northwest of Titicaca (Sitchin 'Lost Realms' fig 134)? - The concentric circles city, canal & lake/sea are seen in the Calango stone from Peru (ref picture & text in Sitchin's 'Lost Realms'). - Concentric circles cities are also seen in the "3 windows" drawing of Salcamayhua (ref picture in Sitchin 'Lost Realms')? - The hats of Peruvians might symbolise the small hill and concentric rings city? - The inverse spade symbol in Peruvian may stand either for mining or for [Poseidon] digging/boring the rings? Compare their accounts saying the divine/magic/golden wand/staff "sink/sank into the earth/ground" / "strike/struck a/the stone"? - The concentric circles city is certainly shown in a Chanchan/Chimu inscription. See: http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=33831.msg258213#msg258213 http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=282;image - This Peruvian (Chimu/Mochica) mask has the 3 concentric circles city with the Atlas pillar motif rising from it. See: http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=33831.msg258213#msg258213 http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=281;image . - The concentric circles city may also be shown in the head/face of the female figure in the Crespi collection? See picture on old title page at: http://picasaweb.google.com/seanbam2/Antipodean. (Maybe also compare concentric circles in one or two other pieces of the Crespi collection too.)
(Other similar concentric circles sites from elsewhere in the Americas include: San Lorenzo in east Mexico. Tenochtitlan in Mexico ("surrounded by water" in lake). The Chalco glyph in Mexico. The Caracol in Citchen Itza. Stede Citades "7 cities" (Brazil & Azores)?)
(Other possible concentric rings formations are also maybe seen at: - The Isla Allan / Moro / Negrone, Uros islands, Puno bay / Paucarcolla bahia area in n.e. Titicaca? - Ilave peninsula in mid west Titicaca? - There is maybe an anomalous about-5 kms [diameter?] circular object in the sea out from the Orinoco river mouth in Google satellite photos? - A projection on the continental shelf off Florida?)
It is true that there are many other concentric circles sites and pictures in various places around the world as some critics have counter-claimed. However, Atlantis can only be in one place, and that location has to match all the details in the Account (including size, distance, direction, large plain, mountains, the sea, elephants, remains of buildings/city/civilisation, concentric circles, etc), and many locations are ruled out by some of the details, and all the details matches evidences for our site are far stronger quality and quantity than all the others. Other concentric circles cities may be later copies of Atlantis/Tiahuanaco city's design/model/plan which itself was an analogy/mirror/microcosm of the spheres of heaven &/or earth. The only 2 major civilisations known outside of Europe and Asia in the whole world that could match Atlantis are Peru and Mexico.
Apart from the concentric rings layout other general confirmation of the capital city of Atlantis being in vicinity of Tiahuanaco includes: - Huinaymarka (the southern part of Titicaca) means "eternal city". (Perhaps also compare the 7 hills "Rome" site in vicinity of Juli in middle west Titicaca?) - There are stories of a lost underwater city 'Wanaku' in lake Titicaca. Anaku "tin-land" of Mesopotamian sources might be connected with Wanaku and with the orichalc metal of Atlantis city. (Perhaps compare Huanki (3 tiered circular terrace) in China?) - Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku has been called "the cradle of American man", and "the Baalbek of the New World" (refs Posnansky, Alford, Sitchin, Kolosimo). "I would say that I consider this the oldest antiquity in all of Peru." "... the most ancient place of any I have yet described." - Tiahuanaco is significantly roughly-halfway between two of the highest/greatest mountain peaks of the Andes & (South) Americas (Illampu/Sorata and Illimani). "Nowhere else in the world, perhaps, can a panorama so diversified and grand be obtained from a single point of view." These were extra evidences that forced me to accept Tiahuanaco is the site of Atlantis city. - Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku city at the bottom of lake Titicaca is an inverse analogy of Eridu city at the top of the Persian Gulf. - Tiahuanaco is in the supposed "world grid", and on "a ley line". - Peru is right on the equator line in one of the maps of Pole shift periods. (Compare "then under the sun" in the Atlantis Account?) - The candelabra trident at Paracas indicates that Atlantis city is in Peru area? - Atlantis city is seemingly similar to descriptions of Manoa/Eldorado and/or Akakor/Akator? - Kirchir's map of Atlantis seems to match South America, and it seems to suggest 1 of 2 locations for the plain & city, one in Venezuela and one in Peru? - The "ra/dag/zal/revolving-sun/spiral/whorl/cup-marks" in Menes' tomb lesser labels (ref Waddell) may be Atlantis, and Menes died in Urani/Amenti/Aaru "the land of the sunset".
Various translations of the Atlantis Account say that the plain and city of Atlantis were on the side of the island "towards the islands", on the sea side of the island, near the sea (ocean or inland sea), in the (n-s &/or w-e) centre/midpoint of the longest side of the island. Tiahuanaco/Peru fits all of these details of the Account. (Some sources' maps have Atlantis plain/city on the (south-)east side of the island, but some have the plain/city on the (south-)west side.)
"And beginning from the sea they bored a canal of three hundred feet in width and one hundred feet in depth and fifty stadia in length, which they carried through to the outermost zone, making a passage from the sea up to this..." Critias 115e.
The canal between Atlantis citadel and the sea may be either the/a canal in Tiahuanaco maps/diagrams, or Rio Tiwanaku, or the Desaguadero? "... the water flowed into canals which led to lake Titicaca." "It [water/canal] lead from there to wharfs at the site's north and thence to the lake."
The ditch coming "to the city (of Atlantis) from both directions" has possible matches at our site of Tiahuanaco such as the canal like 2 pinchers around the back of the Akapana in Posnansky's map & Alford's diagram (see: www.condoramericano.com.ar/historia/Tiahuanaco.htm)?
The maps & diagrams confirm that they could sail right up to the citadel/palace/temple like the Atlantis Account says.
-- The low Hill dwelling of Clito. --
"... there was a mountain/hill, not very high on any side. In this mountain/hill there dwelt ... Cl(e)ito. ... enclosed the hill on which she dwelt all around...." Critias 113d-e.
This Hill in the centre of Atlantis city certainly matches the clitoris-shaped Akapana mound or "pyramid" or "hill made by hands of men" in central Tiahuanaco, which stands-out in Tiahuanaco drawings & descriptions, and which is also surely fairly remarkible (if not unique) in all the world. (Compare the African story of Amma who "circumcised the earth goddess, whose clitoris was an anthill".) This was one of the evidences that forced me to accept that Tiahuanaco is Atlantis city.
(See the Akapana hill in these maps & diagrams of Tiahuanaco from Posnansky & Sitchin & Alford & Daniken: http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=33831.msg258213#msg258213 http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=284;image http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33831.0;attach=287;image www.condoramericano.com.ar/historia/Tiahuanaco.htm .)
The Hill/Akapana (or else the pillars of Hercules?) is also seemingly maybe shown in the Inca picture from the Coricancha in the concentric circle(s) globe or "earth-symbol for Pachamama" on the (viewer's) lower left side. Maybe also compare Jiskairumoko/Moko "small hill" in the same area/region? There is also another similar shape hill/mountain in middle west Titicaca at/by/near the 7 hills "Rome" site of Juli. Clito may possibly be the female figure in the Crespi collection which seems to have the Atlantis concentric circles city in her head/face? (See picture on old title page.)
"The palaces in the interior of the citadel were constructed in this wise : In the center was a holy-temple/shrine dedicated/sacred to Cleito & Poseidon, which remained inaccessible, and was surrounded by a[n enclosure/barrier of] gold(en)...." (Critias 116d.)
I am not sure if this is the same as the Hill of Clito (Akapana), or the temple of Poseidon, but we can see in the maps & diagrams of Posnansky's & Alford's that the Akapana seemingly has an enclosure, and the Kalasasaya maybe has enclosure, and another building maybe has an enclosure? The "inaccessible" also fits the Akapana....
-- The Temple (of Poseidon), and the palace of Poseidon. --
"Here, too, was Poseidon's own temple, of a stadium in length and half a stadium in width.... ... walls ... lined with oreichalc. .... There was an altar, too, which in size and workmanship corresponded to the rest of the work...." Crit 116e. "... at/in the temple of Poseidon.... ... range of the temple of Poseidon... in the temple...." Crit 119d, 119e, 120a. "...in the temple of the god... about/in the temple/sanctuary...." Crit 120c.
"The palaces in the interior of the citadel/acropolis were constructed in this wise :" Crit 116d "...and they began to build the palace in the habitation of the god.... This they continued to ornament in successive generations... until they made the building a marvel to behold for size & beauty." Crit 115d. "The island on which the palace was situated..." Crit 116a. "Enough of the plan of the royal palace." Crit 117e.
Tiahuanaco has a match for the large size of the temple of Poseidon, and the altar, and for the marvelous size of the palace, though I am not totally sure which of these following buildings are the right matches.
- Akapana 257 x 197 m (& 16.5 high) (though this seems to be the hill of Clito rather than the temple of Poseidon).
- Kalasas(a)ya large temple 120 x 130 m / 300 ft long / 400 x 450 ft (but i can't tell whether this is the temple or the palace). (One can see from maps and diagrams and descriptions that we can not know whether the measurements given by my sources are for both the external and internal parts of the Kalasasaya, or just the internal parts?)
- the throne room 160 x 130 ft / [100 x 85 ft] (though this sounds more like the palace).
- the hall 45 x 22 ft?
- "the monolithic gateway of the temple [at Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku] is the largest example of its kind in the world".
- Pumapunku/Pumapinku huge "temple" 167 x 116 m (& 5 m high) + 20 m wide projections corners extending 27 m, + terrace 6 x 38 m (but this can't be the temple since it seems it is not in central island but in a ring?)
(Some of these buildings also look large in the maps and diagrams of Posnansky's & Alford's.)
A stade/stadium is uncertainly either 157/150 m (Greek), 185/180 m or 606 ft (Roman), 177/170 m (Attic), 192 m (Olympic), 209/200 m (Egyptian), 211 m (Greek). Jim Allen argues for half a stade since Peru/Bolivia had a base 20 not a base 10 numeric system. Richter proposed "stade" was for Egyptian khet which is 52/50/55 m. Some suggest that the Peruvians had a measurment called luk'a which is 60 cm. The central island of Atlantis city was 5 stades which is said to be half a mile. The whole city of Atlantis was 50 stades radius which is said to be 9.2 km or "5 (& a 1/2) miles", or 22 km diameter. Dr Kuhne's possible 50 m x 40 m building in Donana in Spain is half the size of the Atlantis temple.
Ruins of a "Tiwanaku" temple were also found by Atahualpa/Akakor expedition divers under/beneath Titicaca, near Copacabana, at the foot of real Cordigliera? The Egyptian judgement hall of the dead or of Osiris was also in the land of the sunset.
"All the outside of the temple, with the exception of the pinnacles, they covered with silver, and the pinnacles with gold. In the interior of the temple the roof was of ivory, curiously wrought everywhere with gold and silver and orichalcum; and all the other parts, the walls and pillars and floor, they coated with orichalcum." Critias 116e.
There are stone blocks with lines of nail holes, grooves & niches at Tiahuanaco, indicating metal sheets lining/coating like in the Atlantis account.
Also compare the Coricancha "golden palace" sheathed in gold plates, or Temple of the Sun or "golden temple covered with gold plates" of Cuzco? Gold & silver plates lined walls of temple of Pachacamac? Golden enclosure Tumbes? "Temple of 7 rays" of Amaru/Aramu Muru/Muro (Hayu Marca)?
References for the concentric rings in the ground at Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku: An academic paper on Tiahuanaco which i didn't record and cant find again. Bolivia-Tiwanaku - Travel Tourist Information Guide (http://travel-tourist-information-guide.com/bolivia-tiwanaku). Z Sitchin 'Lost Realms'. Alan Alford 'Gods of the New Millenium'. E von Daniken 'In Search of Ancient Gods'. A Posnansky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiwanaku http://atlantipedia.ie/samples/tiwanaku-tiahuanaco/ http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1104286 http://www.condoramericano.com.ar/historia/Tiahuanaco.htm