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Swordsmanship, West VS East.

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Topic: Swordsmanship, West VS East.

Posted By: J.A.W.
Subject: Swordsmanship, West VS East.
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2015 at 21:42

Swordsmanship has been practised as a martial art/competitive sport for even longer than as a dedicated primary warlike pursuit.

In the West the sword types used changed focus when comprehensive armoured suits were obsoleted by personal firearms.

In the East the slash/cut style remains in Nippon Kendo competition,
but does not seem to translate well into Olympic fencing success.

Has anyone here seen a true/fair exhibition of a West Vs East sword sport/combat contest?

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 17-Jun-2015 at 18:52

To the latter I have never seen one...to the former that's a correct statement. If for no other reason than training/sparring/competing with a sword; prepared the wielder for potential use in a military force that used them.

As for examples utube has several showing contests allegedly.

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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman

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Posted By: J.A.W.
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2015 at 23:06

Indeed, thanks CV, but like a lot on youtube, is it perhaps dubious - validity & value-wise?

The Prussian officers used to put a fair amount of social cachet on sporting a "dueling scar"..

& if G.S.Patton was designing a sabre, with a manual for its proper combat application - only a century ago..

..does Annapolis &/or West Point still include it in their Officer & Gentleman - SOP skill set?

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Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 24-Jun-2015 at 05:54

In the history Polish Commonwealth was a place where west and east were meeting and it was not unusual to see a duel in which opponent used different techniques and arms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyfuwLLVUdMhttp:// - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyfuwLLVUdM

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 24-Jun-2015 at 09:35

Originally posted by J.A.W.

Indeed, thanks CV, but like a lot on youtube, is it perhaps dubious - validity & value-wise?

The Prussian officers used to put a fair amount of social cachet on sporting a "dueling scar"..

& if G.S.Patton was designing a sabre, with a manual for its proper combat application - only a century ago..

..does Annapolis &/or West Point still include it in their Officer & Gentleman - SOP skill set?

The answer to the latter is yes. It's worn for various functions by cadets; as it is also used for specific training and participation in Drill and Ceremony training-parades etc

A common example is a formation for 'retreat' and or changing of a guard.

In the field Army; they might be worn by officers usually for a specific function as a 'change of command' formation or major parade.

The Cavalry continues this tradition in specific.

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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman

Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'

Posted By: J.A.W.
Date Posted: 25-Jun-2015 at 21:42

Thanks again CV..

Does anyone know if the USN/USMC/USCG still train in the use of, & issue cutlasses/axes or such weaponry to sea-borne boarding parties?

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