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Topic: Best RTS Ever
Posted By: Gallipoli
Subject: Best RTS Ever
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 06:11

Well I know. Tough question. Why dont we make this poll the most popular poll at AE?Then we can actually send the results to Heaven Games or such?

My favorite is......

DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM

Rise of Nations.

Very nice graphics engine,CIV/AOK engines combined in gameplay. Good units and ofcourse, WW1.

My second is Imperialism which is my favorite all times game.




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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 07:14

Europa Universalis. Too bad you didn't put it on your list.

Anyway, I voted AoE, because that was so very much better than the other games when it came out. Nowadays those games which are called RTS are all basicly the same.



Posted By: Mast
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 07:41
The Age of Empires demo () made me interested in history and strategy games, and later I bought Age of Kings which still hasn't bored me. The Total War series and EU series are excellent games too, not really the typical RTS games, both belong to genres of their own.


Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 07:55

Originally posted by Mast

The Age of Empires demo () made me interested in history and strategy games, and later I bought Age of Kings which still hasn't bored me. The Total War series and EU series are excellent games too, not really the typical RTS games, both belong to genres of their own.

Same here. Though EU is actually real time strategy per definition (and it actually contains strategy, as opposed to most "RTS" games), it's just that the label seem to have stuck on Age of Empires-like games.



Posted By: Gallipoli
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 08:23

Europa Universalis...I didnt know it was a RTS..



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Posted By: fastspawn
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 12:46
Sad to see no one else voted for the Total War series.

Having played all the games listed above, i have found that Total War gives the highest replay valueave EU, but i found that EU gets very cumbersome and battles don't give the same excitement.

For Total War, every battle keeps you alert and you learn new things.


Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 20:31

can only agree with fastspawn here...especially afetr Rome will come out. open a poll like that again after most members (interested in games) have played Rome for a while and let's see the difference.



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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 20:37

voted for TW series although it is not a RTS but Turn Based.

There are so many that could be included, but it may not matter. When 1C releases Battlefield Command (Wartime Command in the states i guess) it may break ground. 1C and russian Oleg Maddox are also the makers of the best combat flight sim `IL2 Sturmovik.

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/wartimecommand/about-game/ - http://www.codemasters.co.uk/wartimecommand/about-game/

 



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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 21:06
yeah, heard about it, though its WW2 and I don't like games about the world wars...how many units does it support?

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Posted By: DSMyers1
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2004 at 07:39
I vote for Europa Universalis II.  I have played it for 2 years, with only a short intermission with RoN.

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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2004 at 14:09

yeah, heard about it, though its WW2 and I don't like games about the world war...how many units does it support?

Have to guess as many as your cpu will handle.

agree, studied ww2 for so many years i must say that i am burnt. also agree we will see many new RTW fans when it is released and the RTW thread will be this sections largest.



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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2004 at 22:23
Yeah, Medieval Total war shouldn't count as an RTS.

Ironically, that's the game that's winning. lol

Greatest RTS series, I would say is Close Combat because it's the most unique. In terms of multiplayer popularity and how sucessful it was, then Warcraft III.


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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2004 at 23:26
yes but the meat of Medieval is the combat, and that is real time.  Anyway the game poll is under strategy and we all know build and rush games should not be considered strategy.

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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2004 at 03:39

Originally posted by Tobodai

yes but the meat of Medieval is the combat, and that is real time.  Anyway the game poll is under strategy and we all know build and rush games should not be considered strategy.

True. The turn-based "strategy" part is just a sorry excuse to release the ecellent battle engine with. Anyway, that'd make it a real time tactical game, so in whatever way you look at it, it's not an rts



Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2004 at 11:45

wrong, you re-use your units on the campaign map, so it's strategical as well. Multiplayer is tacical and Non-campaign battles are tactical, but campaign battes ARE strategical.

and actually Shogun was an adaption of the popular Shogun table-top game, they just included the battles to not make another Civ2-clone...



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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2004 at 12:26
Originally posted by Temujin

wrong, you re-use your units on the campaign map, so it's strategical as well. Multiplayer is tacical and Non-campaign battles are tactical, but campaign battes ARE strategical.

and actually Shogun was an adaption of the popular Shogun table-top game, they just included the battles to not make another Civ2-clone...

As said, the lousy strategy part is just a mould. The core of the game is the battles. A battle itself is not strategy. Strategy is when and where to fight. Anyway, the campaign is turnbased strategy, the battles real time tactics.  Doesn't matter though, it's only game labels where discussion...



Posted By: Gallipoli
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 08:48
Come on Ihsan where are you, you loved Cossacks...

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Posted By: Gallipoli
Date Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 11:56
Hey lets get the poll going okay?I really want to send the results to the companies...your opinions are valuable you know...

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Posted By: Arkhanson
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2004 at 04:15

MTW



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Posted By: Gallipoli
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2004 at 09:55
Ney?

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Posted By: Gallipoli
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2004 at 07:18
Hello anybody out there?Come on lets get on with the poll eh?

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Posted By: Scythian
Date Posted: 12-Sep-2004 at 04:43
I voted for the Cossacks because it's the best RTS,
Medieval is in a class of it's own. Perfect.


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Posted By: demon
Date Posted: 12-Sep-2004 at 17:11
I chose RON because AOE series are historically innaccurate, EE only has 1 civ, and the rest I never played.

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Posted By: I/eye
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 03:17

Starcraft!

I know it's old and has poor graphics, but the game is awesome..

or maybe it's those crazy Koreans who developed so many strategies and tactics to make it awesome..



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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 04:49

The best RTS ever is sertainly Age of Kings with its great specialities.In Aok

  • You can design modes
  • You can design scenarios
  • You can make campaigns
  • You can create RMS files
  • It has a good historical knowledge
  • You can make Age Toons
  • it is the best


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Posted By: demon
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 07:41
Bah, I think starcraft shines to those who have fast fingers...  though I used to love that game...what it lacks is formation

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Posted By: Gallipoli
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 07:49
Originally posted by Jagatai Khan

The best RTS ever is sertainly Age of Kings with its great specialities.In Aok

  • You can design modes
  • You can design scenarios
  • You can make campaigns
  • You can create RMS files
  • It has a good historical knowledge
  • You can make Age Toons
  • it is the best

You can do the same things with more options with RoN



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Posted By: Mast
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 10:37
No game gives me the same amount of adrenaline than AoK playing online. Especially once I played one of the world's best players in an online tournament. I was sweating. 


Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 07:19

You can do the same things with more options with RoN

In my opinion,it is not a good game in real times



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 17:24
Medieval Total War by far.  For me, the Cossacks was impossible.  

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Posted By: Kubrat
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2004 at 15:01
Rise of Nations, definitely.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Oct-2004 at 04:49
Originally posted by Catt

voted for TW series although it is not a RTS but Turn Based.

The campaign map is turn based.

The battles are RTS.



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Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 09-Oct-2004 at 15:06

I usually play AoK because I can make changes with the units  Cossacks is good with the editor but it's too hard in other parts (singleplayer, campaigns, scenarios, etc). I didn't play RoN and I disliked EE a lot.



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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2004 at 05:43
Whooaa btw we forgot C&c Red Alert and Generals

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Posted By: Slickmeister
Date Posted: 11-Nov-2004 at 20:59

Originally posted by Jagatai Khan

Whooaa btw we forgot C&c Red Alert and Generals

And do not forget Yuri's Revenge



Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2004 at 09:03
If i remember well Warcraft I, Warcraft II and C&C were the first RTS games. So they are the best because they were first. All other RTS games base on this ideas. I would vote for those 3 games.

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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2004 at 12:50
the first RTS was Dune 2 by Westwood , followed by Warcraft 1 by Blizzard and C&C by westwood again.

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Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2004 at 13:58

Originally posted by Temujin

the first RTS was Dune 2 by Westwood , followed by Warcraft 1 by Blizzard and C&C by westwood again.

Oh yes, you are right. Dune II was first. I forgot about it. I was playing it on Amiga 500.



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Posted By: I/eye
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2004 at 20:43

Yeah! Dune II! Woo!

Ordos sucks! boo!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 16:14

why isnt tft included in the polls?! this is a scandal!!

 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 16:16
tft = the frozen throne >_<!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2004 at 22:18

Originally posted by Violent_Jay

tft = the frozen throne >_<!
 

yeah i know where the hell is TFT on that list wc3 is deffinately the best... that or starcraft because more people like it but i think wc is more fun. the games on that last are no where near as interactive or interesting as wc



Posted By: ChineseManchurian
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2004 at 22:20
RON is the best


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2004 at 22:21
by the way my wc3 tft id: mailto:Genghis_khan@azeroth - Genghis_khan@azeroth if anyone is up for a game.


Posted By: Infidel
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 20:37
Well, definitely Europa Universalis II! One of the best I've ever played. Real politics, real strategy, and conquer the world (or part of it, actually!).

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2004 at 15:39
Where is HOI the best I have ever played, made by the same company as Europa Universalis series..

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Posted By: The Canadian Guy
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 11:20
I love all RTS games...infact I love any game that is fun. Basically I love all video games. But...for this poll...it was a tough question, I had picked AoM. It is unique, with awesome god powers, myth units, cooler heros, and awesome graphics.

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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 11-Jun-2005 at 12:25

Yes,Frozen Throne is perfect,but nothing can spoil the legendary of Age Of Empires 2.

I still download scenarios and play it.

 

of course I'm talkin about Aok:Tc Expansion.



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Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 11-Jun-2005 at 15:51
Yes, many things are too clever in that list, but I chose Cossacks cause it is my like last two years best fav game.. and it is soo good...

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Posted By: Jazz
Date Posted: 13-Jun-2005 at 13:41
I'll have to agree with most here.

MTW is my favorite game of the lot listed here.....but it is not a true RTS in the sense that the others listed are.

With that in mind, I would have voted Age of Kings, with the Conquerors expansion.


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