Agreed Menumorot, both sides committed all kinds of war crimes, but as good ol' Churchill said "History will be written by the victors" so the allies war crimes were conveniently ignored. My fav candidate would be this fellow, he's guilty of all kind of things I suppose but the first that comes to mind would be for being such a hopeless idiot. http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/6150/himm9.rar - uploads/6150/himm9.rar

 

These small units (SS Einsatzgruppen and special NKVD platoons) were then moved from site to site.   For example, the murders at Katyn may have only involved 100 or so actual shooters.  In other instances, a travelling NKVD execution platoon would arrive at a labor camp designated to be purged and then systematially execute several thousand people over the course of a week before moving to the next camp.      

 

 

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Who is this person?

As a side note, he may well not be a "typical member of the master race" meaning that he may not even be German.  Thousands of concentration camp guards were locally recruited Ukrainians, Belarussians, Latvians etc.  I do not have enough knowledge to tell by his uniform whether he is German or a local or when the photo might have been taken.  

 

Originally posted by Nick1986 Russians' brutality was largely a reaction to German atrocities, like the massacre of suspected communists, the rape of Russian women, and the extermination of captured Red Army soldiers in the death camps

The Soviets killed millions of their own citizens before the war even started.  Likewise, Mao's Great Leap Forward and the Cultural revolution were purely internal as well and not in response to atrocities perpetrated by others.

Originally posted by Nick1986 This foul creature is Oskar Dirlewanger, a rapist, murderer and pedophile. During the war he was put in charge of a special SS unit made up of convicted criminals with the intent of unleashing a wave of terror on the conquered Slavs, comparable to the Black and Tans in Ireland.

And ironically, there were many Slavs (Ukrainians) in his unit with an intense hatred of Poles.

 

 

I wonder about the Japanese? Especially in China?

 

Now that you mention it, the Japanese seemed to have used the exact opposite approach.  Maybe the pre-war Japanese culture of total obedience allowed them to use ordianry units for atrocities where as the Germans and Soviets encountered problems?

 

For example, ordinary Japanese sodliers were orderd to particiapte in the mass bayoneting of prisoners or the shooting of civilians as a means to "blood them".   Murder with a bayonet especially desensitized them for the next "action".  Ordinary German combat units rarely participated in directly in mass killings.

 

Ordinary Japanese combat units also conducted the horrific Kill All, Burn All, Loot All anti guerilla campaigns. In adition to "official murders", individual Japanese soldiers with sadistic tendencies were permitted / encouraged to act at random during these campaigns.  In contrast, the Germans used specialized units for mass murder,  round ups of victims from Ghettos and horrific anti partisan sweeps.  Sadistic actions by individuals was usually not permitted and seen as bad for discipline.

 

Pre War Soviet atrocities (1945 Vengenace atrocites were different) of mass murder, round ups for  deporations etc. were also conducted by specialized units (ideologically driven "Shock Worker" militias would supplement special NKVD units and move about the country side to new assignments).  As with the Germans, sadistic actions by individuals was rarely tolerated.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by Nick1986 I think he's a German or Austrian as he's wearing a WWI medal.

Good eyes and good knowledge

 

Originally posted by red clay Perhaps because of his age he was in the "Volksturm"?  That's not a standard Uniform he's wearing.

 Good points, but he is wearing the deaths head emblem which strongly suggests concentration camp / ghetto duties.  The Volkstrum were mobilized 1944-45 for last ditch combat and were not used as camp guards to my knowledge. 

 

Hmm... I am thinking Volksdeutch, probably from Poland.   That could explain his age, the German / Austrian WWI medal and his non standard uniform (older Volksdeutch volunteers more likely to be accepted early in the war as ghetto guards etc. and would be more likely to be issued improvised uniforms than German units from Germany).

His worst crimes were in Warsaw, where his unit (consisting of a large number of visciously anti polish ukrainians) committed atrocities that even the German SS thought were excessive.  These unauthorized atrocities, coupled with unauthorized looting and fears that his unit was spiraling totally out of control (potentially leading to even more headaches for the Germans) led to his execution at the hands of the SS.  As a trivia side note, I believe that Kaminski self identified as Belorussian, and not Russian.

 

The bitch is wide awake. And she will report even when threatened with revisonism.

 

Now my only complaint is widen it to include others of the era and context. But ole Nick knew I cant never be satisfied.....must be the Cav in me.

 

It's all context.

 

I recommend the following:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Henry Wirz

 

Azita

 

But if this Azita is Historum's former Azita, then he's pure evil just because he lived in America:)

 

3. Trolling can also be considered as, "inflammatory remarks, "

 5. "Rude insults, defamatory remarks"  "personal attacks, "

 6. "Nationalism "

 8. Negative attitude; tone of confrontation, annoyance, or contempt; disrespectful toward other members.

 

Some of the( abridged) forum rules here, perhaps Salah Ad-din has not had time to read them yet.

 

Azita

PS:  Surely no one could apporove of Fort Sumter ????

 

 

 

Ease up Salah and remember keep the personalities out of it. As your last sentence was not necessary.

 

Your point is made.

 

Now also remember the other guideline in the CoC...you have a complaint. Take it PM to a Mod or the Admin for resolution. We avoid flame wars this way.

 

 

 

 

 

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And for general edification and enlightenment for all concerned, now or in the future. They may rest assured; flame wars wont happen here as long as I Mod.

 

 

Period.

 

 

BG Reginald E.H. Dyer, British India Army, makes the list.

 

It is quite a testimony to the British of that time, that they were also outraged and disgusted by the event. and the subsequent changes made

BTW the 1984 massacre was far more bloody.

 

 

Probably not...as this is a case of apples and oranges...tho controversy over the use of incendiaries in possible violation of Proto. 3, CWC 80 treaty, remains an issue.  Internal investigations were determinate that no violation occurred...viz the charges of indiscriminate use or targeting of civilians in general. Fallujah has been defined as a battle between two armed opponent forces not an indiscriminate-discriminate (depends on viewpoint) massacre of unarmed civilians protesting Raj policies. Interestingly, but whats not often reported, was that insurgents and foreign mujahideen forces involved were also in violation of the code in the use of civilians and civilian infrastructure as shields.

 

And to be absolutely correct this was not a US specific op...but a coalition. So an effort to broad brush paint it as such, by anyone, falls short. For in theory and in practice; had the UN convened a WC investigation, it would have been inclusive of all force commanders down to platoon level of all forces involved.

What of this man?

I was trying to post a picture of Idi Amin, but I am having technical difficulties.

 

Yup he was a real corker eh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your comparison of the "Tans " with any SS unit is misguided at best or malicious at worst.  I must ask you, please, to cite any actions of the " Tans " that you believe supports your assertions.  Failing that, if you are a contributor with any integrity at all, you really should remove your scurrilous comment to that effect.  Please take into account that there are millions of people who are impressionable and who will otherwise  believe what you say to be correct.