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Topic: Worst Deaths
Posted By: LilLou
Subject: Worst Deaths
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 17:26
Which historical person in history had the worst/painful death?? and explain why they were killed.
 
ex. king edward II of england was killed due to an extremely hot poker being inseted into his rectum.....Dead due to being a really bad king and public homosexuality.



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Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 17:48
Originally posted by LilLou

 
extremely hot poker being inseted into his rectum..


ouch.

Well a famous one is William wallace who was 'Drawn' by a wooden hurdle to the site of execution where he was hanged to near death, then emasculated, followed by emiscerated (disembowelled) and his organs were burnt before his eyes. The just about dead Wallace was then beheaded and his head placed upon London Bridge while he was Quartered by tying his arms and legs to seperate horses I think. William's crime was high treason.
There were many other people who had the punishment carried out on them, including some of the Gunpowder Plot conspirators.




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Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 17:55
Also, Peter of the Bible was supposedly crucified upside down in Rome under Nero's reign. 

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Posted By: King John
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 18:22
 due to being a really bad king and public homosexuality.


Although Ed II was a homosexual that was not a reason for his death. The reason had to do with his mistreatment of the lords of his realm. As well as Ed's toleration of his lovers' misbehavior (he allowed his lover to degrade his lords). Another reason for the death was to keep him from escaping and rallying supporters to counterstrike his deposers, his wife in favor of their minor son. But still red hot poker up the rectum is a horrible way to die.   
    


Posted By: LilLou
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 19:05
another horrible death is that of william the conqueror who got thrown of his horse and got impaled with his horse saddle he died a painful death a week later with his bowels decomposing while he was still alive, when he died they stuffed his oversized body which was unexplained why it was so large, they stuffed the body in the casket which was too small to fit the body but they managed, the next day in the middle of the funeral the body which coudn't hold it anymore due to the very small casket exploded sending puss and feces to everybody in the first rows, the smell was so bad everyone inside the church had to litteraly run out and gagging......
 
DeadDeadDead  http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/william_the_conqueror/index.html - http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/william_the_conqueror/index.html


Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 19:07
Originally posted by LilLou

another horrible death is that of william wallace who got thrown of his horse and got impaled with his horse saddle..


?? Confused


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Posted By: LilLou
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 19:16
Peter of the bible was crucified upside down?!? i never knew that..


Posted By: King John
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 21:16
I believe Lillou has confussed William the Conqueror and William Wallace


Posted By: LilLou
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 21:23
Thanks for pointing that out king johnWink


Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 01:25
Ok Ok I get you know Wink So William The Conqueror was thrown off his horse and died after his insides had left to decompose?? Ouch!

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Posted By: vulkan02
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 01:54
WHo was the English king who got killed by a splinter of a lance through his eye while we was jousing for fun?

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Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 04:48
Are you all sure about the William the Conqueror story? It looks suspiciously like someone who really had it in for him wrote that.

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Posted By: King John
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 09:50
That is the story alright. It is actually told to us in Pro-Norman sources.


Posted By: LilLou
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 11:50
Found a good link http://www.tealdragon.net/humor/facts/deaths.htm - http://www.tealdragon.net/humor/facts/deaths.htm


Posted By: LilLou
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 12:02
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths


Posted By: LilLou
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 12:04
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/207_BC - 207 BC : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysippus - Chrysippus , Greek http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoic - stoic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher - philosopher , is believed to have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_hilarity - died of laughter after watching his drunken http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey - donkey attempt to eat figs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths#_note-1 - [2]    LOLLOL


  • Posted By: Tar Szerénd
    Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 14:26
    Originally posted by vulkan02

    WHo was the English king who got killed by a splinter of a lance through his eye while we was jousing for fun?
     
    I think it was a french king ...maybe a (I-III. I don't know) Francois. Nostradamus predictioned his death.
     
    In 1514 after the peasant rebellion in Hungary the leader, György (George) Dózsa was binded down on an iron throne, wich was heated up, and a heated iron chrone was set on his head. (the nobles called him as the king of the peasants) So he was baked slowly alive. His peasant officiers had to eat him as he was baked slowly.
     
    The second leader, Laurence the priest was burned on the day of Holy Laurence, he was killed in fire, too:-)
     
    in 1494 some german soldiers in the (at that time) hungarian border castle of Belgrad wanted to run over to the ottomans. The hungarian nobleman and military leader Pál Kinizsi got 200 of them, put them in prison, and every day roasted one alive on spit, the others had to eat them, to know, how does treachery taste.
     
    Hungry? LOL
     
    TSZ


    Posted By: LilLou
    Date Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 14:32
    {Quote} in 1494 some german soldiers in the (at that time) hungarian border castle of Belgrad wanted to run over to the ottomans. The hungarian nobleman and military leader Pál Kinizsi got 200 of them, put them in prison, and every day roasted one alive on spit, the others had to eat them, to know, how does treachery taste.
     
     
     
     
    wow that must of been painfulDead


    Posted By: Batu
    Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 11:12
    Osman the Young was killed by janissaries  who squezzed his genitals.

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    Posted By: Brainstorm
    Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 11:23
    Maybe it wasn't the death of a famous historical personality or it is too recent..but the worst i ve heard was in a documentary film about Sierra Leone civil War ,filmed before a couple of years.

    A "veteran" of the war -a teenage child was confessing calmly this incident:
    He was 9 when two older friends/soldiers of him and he ,captured a pregnant woman.(some 8-9 months pr)
    He then cut her belly and they have taken of the fetus.
    The woman died of bleeding while the 3 of them pricked the still alive fetus through a stick ,baked it on fire...and ate it....Confused

    Human nature is capable for the best and the worst..




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    Posted By: LilLou
    Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 13:03
    When most people experience the harsh reality of war, they just lose their calm human nature and experience so much bloodshed that killing a pregnant woman like that is normal because nobody will say anything to them, just another casualty of war.


    Posted By: Patrinos
    Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 14:05

    The worst death I know is the death of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasios_Diakos - Athanasios Diakos a fighter in Greek Independence War when he was impaled and put on a spit after the battle of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alamana - Alamana .
        
        

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    Posted By: LilLou
    Date Posted: 26-Dec-2006 at 14:22

    Deadthe last ayatolla of iran when he was deposed he was taken into an old jail where they tied him to a chair and was forced to watch his sister get gang raped, after that they beheaded her infront of him, after they that they hammered nails into his head and set his beard in fire spreading into the rest of his body where he was slowly roasted alive.........

    what he do to get such a horrible death


    Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
    Date Posted: 02-Jan-2007 at 08:32
    ...The German civilians in the Thirty years war... some of it is far too gruesome to say. Read Christopher Clarks Iron Kingdom - a history of Prussia 1600-1945 (a really good read!).
    I would fullheartedly agree with LilLou on this one, it is generally the cilivians who suffer the most. Look no further than Kosovo and Srebnica.

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    Posted By: Tar Szerénd
    Date Posted: 02-Jan-2007 at 10:59
    Originally posted by Patrinos


    The worst death I know is the death of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasios_Diakos - Athanasios Diakos a fighter in Greek Independence War when he was impaled and put on a spit after the battle of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alamana - Alamana .
        
        
     
    Hi!
     
    Spiting was common in the time of turkish regent in every part of Hungary, too. (and in Muntinia, etc. f.e. Dracul -Vlad Tepes-Vlad, the Spiter(correct?)) In this time was born a hungarian swearing: Lófasz a seggedbe! U got to know, that the word spit means in turkish 'lopat' (or something like that).  The original swearing was" Lopat a seggedbe!" (You should get a spit into your ...ss!! (sorry:-)
     
    In the non turkish parts of Hungary, where the people didn't know this turkish word, changed lopat to a similar sounding hungarian word, to "lófasz".
     
    So the correct hungarian swearing of today means in english: "You should get a horse-c...ck(sorry, sorry, sorry) into your...".
     
    Terrible, but a little bit funny.:-)
     
    In Master Rogerius work of 1242 (mongolian campaign in Hungary) is writen that a lot of people were killed by the mongols on an ugly way: somebodies intestines were driwen out on a litle cut, and tied to a spit standing in the earth. After this the man was hunted round and round, until he teared out his own intestins.
     
     
    TSZ 


    Posted By: LilLou
    Date Posted: 02-Jan-2007 at 15:46
    I think mongols were trully the masters of torture, but some tortures are still common today in most 3rd world countries but are so obscure nobody ever knows about them. American indians would scalp their american counterparts and in some cases, they would skin them and hang them by one foot, general custer after he got defeated at little big horn, they found him with an arrow inserted into his genitalia


    Posted By: kotumeyil
    Date Posted: 09-Jan-2007 at 03:40
    Originally posted by Tar Szerénd

    Originally posted by Patrinos


    The worst death I know is the death of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasios_Diakos - Athanasios Diakos a fighter in Greek Independence War when he was impaled and put on a spit after the battle of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alamana - Alamana .
        
        
     
    Hi!
     
    Spiting was common in the time of turkish regent in every part of Hungary, too. (and in Muntinia, etc. f.e. Dracul -Vlad Tepes-Vlad, the Spiter(correct?)) In this time was born a hungarian swearing: Lófasz a seggedbe! U got to know, that the word spit means in turkish 'lopat' (or something like that).  The original swearing was" Lopat a seggedbe!" (You should get a spit into your ...ss!! (sorry:-)
     
    In the non turkish parts of Hungary, where the people didn't know this turkish word, changed lopat to a similar sounding hungarian word, to "lófasz".
     
    So the correct hungarian swearing of today means in english: "You should get a horse-c...ck(sorry, sorry, sorry) into your...".
     
    Terrible, but a little bit funny.:-)
     
    In Master Rogerius work of 1242 (mongolian campaign in Hungary) is writen that a lot of people were killed by the mongols on an ugly way: somebodies intestines were driwen out on a litle cut, and tied to a spit standing in the earth. After this the man was hunted round and round, until he teared out his own intestins.
     
     
    TSZ 
     
    "lopat" is not Turkish. Maybe it's a variant of "sopa" (stick). However Ottomans used the word "kazık" for the pale. Vlad the Impaler was known as "Kazıklı Voyvoda" or "Kazuglu Bey". For sure, it wasn't the best way to dieDead


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    Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
    Date Posted: 09-Jan-2007 at 04:25

    Most nations had equally disgusting tortures, there are so many variations that there is no real comparision as to "who had the worst"



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    Posted By: Knights
    Date Posted: 09-Jan-2007 at 09:14
    Originally posted by Earl Aster

    Most nations had equally disgusting tortures, there are so many variations that there is no real comparision as to "who had the worst"

    Exactly. That's why we are discussing the worst deaths. Throughout history mankind has strived to develop new, more painful, humiliating and gruesome methods of execution. Many are horrific and disgusting in their own way. Some may consider slow deaths such as impaling, crucifixion and stoning as the 'worst', while others may see particularly painful sudden deaths like - as previously stated - red hot poker inserted into rectum then up piercing bodily organs, burned alive and gassed to be far worse. What do you think: Slow and Relentless or Sudden and Extremely Painful?

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    Posted By: Guests
    Date Posted: 11-Jan-2007 at 11:13
    ClapOuch
    Originally posted by Knights

    Originally posted by Earl Aster

    Most nations had equally disgusting tortures, there are so many variations that there is no real comparision as to "who had the worst"

    Exactly. That's why we are discussing the worst deaths. Throughout history mankind has strived to develop new, more painful, humiliating and gruesome methods of execution. Many are horrific and disgusting in their own way. Some may consider slow deaths such as impaling, crucifixion and stoning as the 'worst', while others may see particularly painful sudden deaths like - as previously stated - red hot poker inserted into rectum then up piercing bodily organs, burned alive and gassed to be far worse. What do you think: Slow and Relentless or Sudden and Extremely Painful?

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    Posted By: pekau
    Date Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 13:07
    Originally posted by LilLou

    Peter of the bible was crucified upside down?!? i never knew that..
     
    Legend says that Romans wanted to crucify him properly, but Peter refused... saying that he does not deserve to die like Jesus did... and he asked himself to be crucified upside down.


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    Posted By: LilLou
    Date Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 15:12
    damn thats crazy isn't that more painful.....

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    Posted By: athenasvirtue
    Date Posted: 11-Feb-2007 at 22:37
    i believe to starve to death slowly must be a horrible way to die. Elizabeth Bathory was locked in her castle and starved to death. Elizabeth Bathory killed several girls and bathed in their blood believing she would live longer. She was caught when she killed a daughter from a royal family. 

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    Posted By: pekau
    Date Posted: 12-Feb-2007 at 00:33
    Flogged and crucified. Understand that Roman flogs had bits of bones, metals, glasses, and such, which tore out the flesh, and often organs and damaging nervous systems.

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    Posted By: Guests
    Date Posted: 12-Feb-2007 at 05:35
    I have to say, being boiled alive is one of the worst deaths I can imagine, having suffered rather horrible burns from boiling water myself.

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    Posted By: Knights
    Date Posted: 12-Feb-2007 at 05:39
    Originally posted by Zaitsev

    I have to say, being boiled alive is one of the worst deaths I can imagine, having suffered rather horrible burns from boiling water myself.

    Does anyone know if this is true? I heard that Jamuqa, after winning a battle over Genghis Khan's (Temujin at that time) forces, boiled the commanders under Genghis -who were captured- alive. It could be the other way around, but I think it was Genghis who broke the backs of the men who turned in Jamuqa. There are probably numerous other live boilings that I am unaware of, but can anybody clarify the credibility of this?
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    Posted By: Praetor
    Date Posted: 12-Feb-2007 at 06:00
    Originally posted by Knights


    Does anyone know if this is true? I heard that Jamuqa, after winning a battle over Genghis Khan's (Temujin at that time) forces, boiled the commanders under Genghis -who were captured- alive. It could be the other way around, but I think it was Genghis who broke the backs of the men who turned in Jamuqa. There are probably numerous other live boilings that I am unaware of, but can anybody clarify the credibility of this?
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    I have heard the same thing Knights. It was indeed (if it happened the secret history is not the most reliable source) Jamuka who boiled the commanders alive, he was a brilliant tactician but his cruelty was one of the reasons his men eventually turned against him.

    I cannot Remember at present how Genghis killed the men who turned in Jamuka but he is suposed to have had Jamuka himself killed by being rapped up in cloth and trampled (having his back broken) this was so that Genghis would not break the oath by spilling his "blood brother's" blood.

    On the Topic of Steppe warriors this may not have been a particularly painful way to die but it was sure a humiliating way (and in this case Ironic too), Attila the Hun is reported to have died by choking on a nosebleed! Other theories were that his wife (one of many) killed him or that he died of internal bleeding caused by heavy drinking at his wedding feast......so much for the scourge of GodLOL



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    Posted By: Crusader3943
    Date Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 20:22
    Originally posted by LilLou

    Peter of the bible was crucified upside down?!? i never knew that..


    Said he wasn't worthy to be crucified the same way as Our Lord.

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    Posted By: kasper
    Date Posted: 18-Mar-2007 at 00:29
    This one wasn't really painful, but definitely bizarre.

    I remember when congressman Budd Dwyer was convicted for corruption, he took out a revolver during a televised press conference and shot himself in the head.



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    Posted By: Athanasios
    Date Posted: 20-Mar-2007 at 16:05
    Originally posted by kasper

    This one wasn't really painful, but definitely bizarre.

    I remember when congressman Budd Dwyer was convicted for corruption, he took out a revolver during a televised press conference and shot himself in the head.



    Ouch That's rotten... What if little kids have been watching tv when that happened?

    Surely who mess with Russian mafia has the worst death... To clear evidences , the gangsters may have their victims into sausages...Shocked

    Hungry anyone?


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    Posted By: Scorpian
    Date Posted: 20-Mar-2007 at 19:12
    Leon Trotsky killed by an ice-pick.Thumbs%20Down
    Or Vlad the Impaler hacked to pieces.Thumbs%20Down
       
          I was watching a program on Vlad and how he had some peeps impaled. Think big greased wooden pole the thinkness of your wrist and you straddled atop it with no clothes on. Seems you impaled yourself slowly a*s first and killed yourself slidding down the greased shaft of the pole.
                               Ouch!Pinch 
     
            getting a splinter would be the last thing on your mindLOL


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    Posted By: Mordoth
    Date Posted: 21-Mar-2007 at 21:54
    The worst and disgusting death of the Sheikh of a Section of Islam , Hurufiah .
     
    Members of this section ; was skinned alive and this superstitious-based order was disbanded from Iran .
     
    Another one , could compete this one ;
     
    The Ottoman ambassadors and diplomats were killed by the order of the Emperor of Austria .
    Their qauqs ( kavuk , a long woolen hat ) were nailed to their heads alive and sent back to Istanbul . After that evidence ; the war broke out .
     
     


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    Posted By: miki015
    Date Posted: 31-Mar-2007 at 19:23
    I think You had a little bit confused...The mutiny of Croatian peasants ended up that way,the peasants King was Matija Gubec,a peasant from vilagge Stubica...all the other details are correct except the canibalysam ...


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    Posted By: Penelope
    Date Posted: 31-Mar-2007 at 23:09
    Vlad ll, father of Vlad The Impaler, was assassinated by having the edges of his face cut, so that his skin could be pulled off while he was still alive. Vlad's oldest brother was buried alive.


    Posted By: Kaysaar
    Date Posted: 01-Apr-2007 at 17:44
    Originally posted by LilLou

    American indians would scalp their american counterparts and in some cases, they would skin them and hang them by one foot, general custer after he got defeated at little big horn, they found him with an arrow inserted into his genitalia


    I believe that the American Indians picked up scalping from the French - unfortunately I can't remember the circumstances nor do I have any sources on hand.

    I think either the Mongols or the Assyrians receive some credit for the most gruesome deaths. The Mongols used to cut of 2-3 square centimeters of skin and then feed it to the victim until they would finally succumb. They also used to make unfortunate fellows swallow rocks until death. (from The Devil's Horsemen)


    Posted By: Choranzanus
    Date Posted: 03-Apr-2007 at 17:42
    Originally posted by athenasvirtue

    i believe to starve to death slowly must be a horrible way to die. Elizabeth Bathory was locked in her castle and starved to death. Elizabeth Bathory killed several girls and bathed in their blood believing she would live longer. She was caught when she killed a daughter from a royal family. 


    Ersebeth Bathory actually escaped with very little punishment, it was her two servants who were "walled in" in the castle Cachtice.

    Also, that thing about her bathing in blood is fishy, it is probably physically impossible, due to blood coagulating.

    Also you will not die of hunger but of thirst if you are walled in or thrown to oubliette. Still, it is very cruel death indeed.



    Posted By: Giannis
    Date Posted: 08-Aug-2007 at 08:06
    Cicero was decapicated, now for that time this death isn't the worst that you can get, but what happened afterwards is a little bit bizarre.
     
    His hands and head were were displayed in Forum Romanum, were Mark Antony's wife Fulvia took Cicero's head, pulled out his tongue, and jabbed it repeatedly with her hairpin, taking a final revenge against Cicero's power of speech.


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    Posted By: Knights
    Date Posted: 08-Aug-2007 at 08:12
    Pretty gruesome ey, Giannis? I don't think Antony or Fulvia really liked Cicero that much...Wink

    Sir Arthur Aston, an Englishmen who served under Gustaf II Adolf, was riding his horse, showing off to the ladies, and then had an accident and lost and leg. He didn't die though...but after leaving to go to Ireland he was caught up in the terrible storm of "Drogheda". It is said that his brains were beaten out with his own wooden leg...

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    Posted By: Giannis
    Date Posted: 08-Aug-2007 at 09:53
    Originally posted by Knights

    Sir Arthur Aston, an Englishmen who served under Gustaf II Adolf, was riding his horse, showing off to the ladies, and then had an accident and lost and leg.
     
    What kind of accident did he have on a horse, which resuled to a lost leg? Axe juggling, while riding a horse?


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    Posted By: omshanti
    Date Posted: 08-Aug-2007 at 11:04
    Originally posted by Penelope

    Vlad ll, father of Vlad The Impaler, was assassinated by having the edges of his face cut, so that his skin could be pulled off while he was still alive. Vlad's oldest brother was buried alive.

    Wow, No wonder Vlad became what he became. A vampire. I will probably turn in to a vampire if someone did that to my family too. But then there is the example of Jesus who forgave the people who crucified him. I wonder if I am capable of making the latter choice.


    Posted By: elenos
    Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 04:12

    You guys are not very good at Church history and I thought I was bad! St. Andrew (the fisherman that cast the net on the other side).was crucified for the crime of converting the wife of the ruler of the city of Patras to Christianity. Although eighty years old, he was nailed upside down to an X-shaped cross and after three days he died. The alleged crucifixion of Peter, although probable, never has been proven beyond doubt, the same as Paul being beheaded outside the gates of Rome.  

     



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    Posted By: Penelope
    Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 23:30
    Pierre Basile, the young boy who assassinated Richard I, was Flayed alive.


    Posted By: kurt
    Date Posted: 11-Aug-2007 at 00:51
    Originally posted by Penelope

    Vlad ll, father of Vlad The Impaler, was assassinated by having the edges of his face cut, so that his skin could be pulled off while he was still alive. Vlad's oldest brother was buried alive.
     
     
    Who did this to him? The Ottomans? The Poles? The Austrians? God, its barbaric.


    Posted By: kurt
    Date Posted: 11-Aug-2007 at 00:54
    Genghis Khan poured molten hot silver in the mouths of the landlords of Persia after he successfully conquered the Khwarezm. The silver would solidify in the throats of the victims, not to mentions their eyes and ears.


    Posted By: Knights
    Date Posted: 11-Aug-2007 at 02:55
    Originally posted by kurt

    Originally posted by Penelope

    Vlad ll, father of Vlad The Impaler, was assassinated by having the edges of his face cut, so that his skin could be pulled off while he was still alive. Vlad's oldest brother was buried alive.
     
     
    Who did this to him? The Ottomans? The Poles? The Austrians? God, its barbaric.

    Well, this barbarity is definitely reflected in the torture and execution methods of Vlad the Impaler himself. I guess he puts a whole new meaning to scarred by childhood...


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    Posted By: Penelope
    Date Posted: 11-Aug-2007 at 03:07
    Originally posted by kurt

    Originally posted by Penelope

    Vlad ll, father of Vlad The Impaler, was assassinated by having the edges of his face cut, so that his skin could be pulled off while he was still alive. Vlad's oldest brother was buried alive.
     
     
    Who did this to him? The Ottomans? The Poles? The Austrians? God, its barbaric.
     
    He was assassinated by John Hunyadi, General of the armies of the King of Hungary. Simple becuase he felt that Vlad ll didnt fulfill his oath as a member of the Order of The Dragon, and as a Vassal of the powerful Kingdom of Hungary.


    Posted By: elenos
    Date Posted: 11-Aug-2007 at 04:58

    I was thinking of Hypatia of Alexandria, a pagan philosopher. After being declared a heretic for teaching mathematics, a Christian mob, led by monks set upon Hypatia in her chariot. They dragged her to a nearby church, tore off her clothing, and skinned her alive with oyster shells. They carried her body from the church and burned the remains.



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    Posted By: kurt
    Date Posted: 11-Aug-2007 at 22:57
    Originally posted by Penelope

    Originally posted by kurt

    Originally posted by Penelope

    Vlad ll, father of Vlad The Impaler, was assassinated by having the edges of his face cut, so that his skin could be pulled off while he was still alive. Vlad's oldest brother was buried alive.
     
     
    Who did this to him? The Ottomans? The Poles? The Austrians? God, its barbaric.
     
    He was assassinated by John Hunyadi, General of the armies of the King of Hungary. Simple becuase he felt that Vlad ll didnt fulfill his oath as a member of the Order of The Dragon, and as a Vassal of the powerful Kingdom of Hungary.
     
    John Hunyadi, the man who defeated Mehmed the Conqueror at Belgrade?


    Posted By: aslanlar
    Date Posted: 13-Aug-2007 at 18:11
    Didn't pirates sometimes get tied to a rope that went along the underside of a ship..and dragged across the ship. Along with the obvious thing, nearly drowning, barnacles on the bottom of the ship cut into the victims body, and as they gasped for air, took in more water. Quite horrible.

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    Posted By: Penelope
    Date Posted: 14-Aug-2007 at 01:40
    Kurt, yes.


    Posted By: Guests
    Date Posted: 16-Aug-2007 at 16:55
    One of the most horrible deaths I found was done to a slave in a child tale of my country:

     After being hit i until all the skin was marked and he was all covered in blood, he was dragged and put into a fire ant hill and left to die.

     Even if just a child history it gives me creeps tryng to think about what  others  slaves suffered.

    C


    Posted By: Kamikaze 738
    Date Posted: 17-Aug-2007 at 06:51
    I think the worst death I known is that of Yuan Chonghuan in which he was sentence to death by what is known as the "death by a thousand cuts" thats basically slice over your limbs and muscle from your body as much as one may bare before dieing. It was said that the locals would all gather to his execution and buy his dead parts to eat. It was a cruel death for one of the most brilliant general in Chinese history.

    His death was cause by corrupt officials in the government during a time when China was about to break down under the Ming Dynasty. At the time Yuan Chonghuan was the only person able to hold back the Manchus from taking over China and his prolonged war against the Manchus give the excuse of the officials in the government to denounce Yuan as a traitor to the emperor by using too much of their resources to fight against the Manchus and for alleged collaboration with the enemy. What a tragic story.


    Posted By: Tar Szerénd
    Date Posted: 17-Aug-2007 at 06:53
    I've heard that the official "record" was by 350 cutted pieces or so.


    Posted By: Penelope
    Date Posted: 17-Aug-2007 at 08:11
    Originally posted by Kamikaze 738

    I think the worst death I known is that of Yuan Chonghuan in which he was sentence to death by what is known as the "death by a thousand cuts" thats basically slice over your limbs and muscle from your body as much as one may bare before dieing. It was said that the locals would all gather to his execution and buy his dead parts to eat. It was a cruel death for one of the most brilliant general in Chinese history.

    His death was cause by corrupt officials in the government during a time when China was about to break down under the Ming Dynasty. At the time Yuan Chonghuan was the only person able to hold back the Manchus from taking over China and his prolonged war against the Manchus give the excuse of the officials in the government to denounce Yuan as a traitor to the emperor by using too much of their resources to fight against the Manchus and for alleged collaboration with the enemy. What a tragic story.
     
    Wow, that one really freaked me out. Just to think that the audience ate him afterwards is extremely creepy.


    Posted By: Guests
    Date Posted: 17-Aug-2007 at 14:28
      Man now I dont know what death is worse...Yuan Chonghuan or Eduard II..

     


    Posted By: Kamikaze 738
    Date Posted: 19-Aug-2007 at 21:14
    Originally posted by Penelope

    Wow, that one really freaked me out. Just to think that the audience ate him afterwards is extremely creepy.


    Yea, its creepy and disgusting... imagine if someone ate the um.. part that guy use... sick Dead And how did Eduard II died?


    Posted By: Caoimhe
    Date Posted: 20-Aug-2007 at 13:03
    During the Irish Civil War the Free State Army executed 8 prisoners by tying them to a landmine and detonating it, they had first shot the men in the legs so they could not escape. They had tied nine men to the landmine but one was blown clear and survived. He later went on to become a T.D. (member of Parliament).

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    Posted By: what_is_history
    Date Posted: 24-Aug-2007 at 13:49
    How about the apostle Paul in the Bible being sawn in half...starting at the feet!  OUCH!  Or some of the western homesteaders in America that had their skin peeled off by the Native tribes, covered in honey and them devoured by FIRE ANTS!  OUCH!!!

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    Posted By: Al Jassas
    Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 10:43
    Islamic history has a lot of terrible endings and execution methods so much so that an eminent Iraqi schoalr classified them and gathered them in a 5 vol. book call "The Encyclopedia of Torture" by Abboud (عبود) Al-Shaliji.
    The worst death I can think of was the death of the last ruler of the 1st Saudi Kingdom Abdullah ibn Saud who was boiled in a large Janissary cooking pot and then fed to the dogs.
     
    Al-Jassas
     


    Posted By: Guests
    Date Posted: 11-Sep-2007 at 12:58

    I would have to say that being hung by one's testicles would have to rank as one of the worst ways to die. Naturally one didn`t die right away, but once the individual became separated from their genitals death from blood loss did set in rather quickly.

    This form of torture was used by the "Infidels" of Jerusalem on the captured Christian Crusaders.


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    Posted By: Ponce de Leon
    Date Posted: 12-Sep-2007 at 17:56
    I dont know if you guys heard about the recent headlines on how the chinese have sent to the US toys that were made out of lead. Well the government in China solution was to find the Minister and execute him. I think he might of been tortured. But it shocked me when I heard of this especially since it a little less than a week ago. And a minister?! Over lead? Comon! thats just barbaric!


    Posted By: Guests
    Date Posted: 11-Oct-2007 at 05:09

    I would go with Franz Reichelt, an Austrian aviation pioneer who had designed a kind of trenchcoat parachute, and decided to test it by jumping off the Eiffel Tower... with obvious results.



    Posted By: Penelope
    Date Posted: 03-Nov-2007 at 05:41
    Another horrific death is the one which was inflicted upon Aelle, the Northumbrian leader, whom attempted to defend the city of York against the conquering Vikings. The large Viking army, led by Halfdan and Ivar The Boneless, marched up to Northumbria, and captured the city. Aelle was subjected to the Viking form of execution known as the "spread eagle", or "blood eagle", whereby the victim is pinned face down on the ground, and his ribs are seperated from his spine. The ribs were then forced outwards, forming a pair of "wings".
     
    This was done in revenge by Halfdane and Hingwar, sons of the Viking Chieftain, Ragnar, for Aelle had previously issued to throw the Chieftan into a pit of adders 20 years earlier.


    Posted By: Brian J Checco
    Date Posted: 03-Nov-2007 at 06:00
    In Bosnia, I heard stories of men being used as landmines. The Croats, according to Anthony Loyd (My War Gone By, I Miss it So, and great-grandson of Sir Adrian Carton De Wiart, the most decorated of all British war heroes), used to capture Bosnian soldiers, strap them to claymore mines, and then tell them to walk back to their trenches, at gunpoint. The Bosnians in question had to face either the fact of being shot in the legs and arms repeatedly and killed with extreme pain, or to walk towards their comrades in hopes that they would recognize the threat and then kill them quickly. It seemed worst to me for the Bosnian (BiH) soldiers still in the trenches: to kill your comrades, or to wait for the enemy to detonate the claymores, blowing them to tiny pieces. Plus, the realization that even if they killed them quickly and painlessly, that the enemy still might detonate the bombs and blow their comrades' bodies to pieces unfit for burial... tragic; a death hat is worse on the living than it is on the dead.
    Cheers.
    BJC


    Posted By: longshanks31
    Date Posted: 03-Nov-2007 at 19:26
    i do not know if the accounts of rasputins death are 100 percent acurate but if so, a very grizzly end indeed, and that was one hard mother to kill


    Posted By: The Hidden Face
    Date Posted: 03-Nov-2007 at 19:56
    In the history of Ottoman Empire, Othman II definetely.


    Posted By: Crusader3943
    Date Posted: 12-Nov-2007 at 20:49
    William Wallace's death was pretty gory, but a lot of other people suffered the same fate. King Bladwin's death of leprosy wasn't too nice.

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    Posted By: bilal_ali_2000
    Date Posted: 13-Nov-2007 at 18:11
    I haven't heard anything about the gory deaths of the Indians. Do the Indians ever killed anyone ruthlessly (natives mind you) 



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