egyptian for egypt?
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Topic: egyptian for egypt?
Posted By: vespasian
Subject: egyptian for egypt?
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2006 at 21:42
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Hi everyone. Quick question. What was the name that Egyptians used for Egypt? If "egypt" comes from the Greek "aigyptios" (sp?), what did they call themselves?
secondly, did the rulers call themselves "pharoah" or was that just from the Bible? Thanks. ------------- Is someone going to tell Triple H that someone beat him to the title "King of Kings"? |
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Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2006 at 21:56
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Máṣr is the Egyptian name for Egypt. The word "Pharoah" is the Greek interpretation of the Egyptian word "pera" meaning Great House. The rulers of Egypt would have called themselves "'smr per-Aa" or "Leader of the Great House". So, technically, the did not call themselves "preas" or "pharoahs".
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Posted By: Odin
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2006 at 22:47
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Ancient Egyptians called thier land Kemet ("Black Land"), a reference to the rich, dark soil near the Nile. ------------- "Of the twenty-two civilizations that have appeared in history, nineteen of them collapsed when they reached the moral state the United States is in now." -Arnold J. Toynbee |
Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2006 at 15:20
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Misr comes from Mudraya, the old Persian name for Egypt. ------------- 
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Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2006 at 20:42
I misread the question, so disregard the Misr answer. -------------
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Posted By: vespasian
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2006 at 19:51
No problem. I actually had forgotten that the Persians ruled Egypt right before Alexander, and that reminded me. Thanks for the info. ------------- Is someone going to tell Triple H that someone beat him to the title "King of Kings"? |
Posted By: Sharrukin
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 09:43
Its the other way around. We have the Semitic forms msrym, misri, and musri dating back to the 2nd millennium BC.
And yes, the native Egyptian name is kmt, transliterated as Kemet, the "black land". The people were called "remetch en kemet" literally "people of the black land".
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Posted By: vespasian
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 20:35
Here's a somewhat related question, then. If they called themselves "remetch en kemet", how did that become "aigyptos" in Greek? Does that mean "the black land" in Greek? Just wondering. ------------- Is someone going to tell Triple H that someone beat him to the title "King of Kings"? |
Posted By: Sharrukin
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 22:51
| The Greek name Aiguptos, comes from the Egyptian name Hutkaptah, (some publications transliterate it as Hikuptah) one of the Egyptian names of Memphis. It literally meant "house of the ka (spirit) of Ptah". Ptah was the titular deity of Memphis. |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 04-Mar-2011 at 15:07
AGyu PoToN...Agyupoton.Nile's cover,mother's victim....Denaywe original.
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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 04-Mar-2011 at 19:39
Thanks denaywe! Very humorous!  But, I don't really understand.
However, I have over a period of years, done some extensive exploration of these words (at least as far at the internet allows) and have discovered that most all of what we assume is fact, is merely speculation, etc. It might well be the speculation of numerous persons considered as "experts" but it is speculation non-the-less. So, I would suggest that the originator of this thread perform his/her own in depth study of this question, and report to us of the results. I wonder if you will come to the same conclusion as have I? Regards, Ron ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 05-Mar-2011 at 02:53
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Nile=Mouth of the bird,it fed them all.Bird is Misir that literary means Corn(land).Bird that eats corn is Turkey.Corn eater.First name above still exist E(A)gyption.Other one Turkey also but dislocated.Why? Pyrrhus story will help! |
Posted By: Baal Melqart
Date Posted: 31-Mar-2011 at 11:59
True, the ancient Israelites reffered to Egypt as Mitzraim. ------------- Timidi mater non flet |
Posted By: Zarah
Date Posted: 03-May-2015 at 03:40
Afro-Americans and Afrocentricists twist the meaning of Kemet into black people, black skin.
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Posted By: Zarah
Date Posted: 03-May-2015 at 03:42
Afro-Americans, Afrocentricists twist the meaning of Kemet into black people, black skin.
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