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Italian and Croation SS????

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Topic: Italian and Croation SS????
Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Subject: Italian and Croation SS????
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 10:25
Ok, this is really Puzzling me- to join the SS, one had to be of pure German decent from 1750. So why did the Nazis start up Italian SS units and with the help of the Utatasha, Croation Muslim SS regiments, i mean, wasn't it in violation of SS law?



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Posted By: Giannis
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 10:35
It was, but Germany needed manpower more than ideologies at the end of the war.

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Posted By: Leonardo
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 12:05
There were also muslim Bosnian SS ...


Posted By: Gundamor
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 13:56
The italian SS was created in February 1944 looking at the state of the war in 1944 i'm sure you can see why. At this time as well Italy was being invaded and being ss italians gave direct control to hitler.

The 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar(1st Croation) was kind of weird creation. Mostly Himmler's doing and his twisted beliefs and fantasys. It was kind of famous as the only SS division to mutiny
    

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 16:23

Didn't the Facist Italians have an equivilent of the SS before the war?



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Posted By: Giannis
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 16:46
They had the Black-Shirts (italian camicie nere or squadristi), they were a paramilitary organization. At the outbreak of war, they formed some divisions, but, they weren't ''elite'' (training, equipment) as the SS.

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 17:45
Ah! Ok. Apparently the Facist Italians actually tried to re-form their armed forces into the Imperial Roman Style. With ranks, some aspects of uniform (holders in the helmets for plumes) etc. Is this a myth or is it true?

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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2006 at 17:53
actually the reason the Waffen SS had so many foreigners was simply the German law at that time forbade to draft Germans into miltiary formations other than the wehrmacht. divisions that were German at closer look were not really German, for example the two cavalry Divisions who were made up of Volksdeutsche from Hungary. only 10 Divisions or so were made up entirely of Imperial born Germans, and they were drawn either from KZ Guards, the Hitler Youth, the Police or the personal field units of Hitler and Himmler.

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 24-Jul-2006 at 07:29
I see- the Wehmacht had a Latvian regiment, did it not?

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