Next Total War
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Topic: Next Total War
Posted By: cattus
Subject: Next Total War
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 13:37
| Now that we have experienced the new RTW engine, which era do you think the engine suits best and which would you like it implemented for the next? |
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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 14:03
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mh, my wettest dream would be Napoleonic wars, with Mongol conquest (medieval 2) and warring states (China) closely behind. a Total war game in renaissance euroe (especially eastern europe) would also be nice. I definately don't want aynthing fantasy, like middle earth or crap like that. that would make me abandon the Total war series for good. first choice is Napoleonic wars because it's a well researched era with lot's of diverse units and tactics even though most factions have the same basic pool of units. Mongol conquest because of the large diversity of armies and factions. warring states because Shogun is somewhat still my favourite. all three are also eras of grand-scale warfare, even more so than (european) middle ages and Roman times. BTW, why did you include egypt in your first choice? we already have it in RTW! ------------- |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 14:40
That is ancient Egypt,Hittites,Seapeoples ect.  Always wanted ancient China but i bet they are scared of how an Asian based game will do in the Western market. The game is considerably bigger since Shoggy.
I hope they dont stop to consider Napoleonic Era because of 'Imperial Glory'. Pyro games are fun but low quality. |
Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 14:47
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and that's what i meant!
don't think so, Imperial glory and Cossacks II will be released way before a possible release of the next TW game. the only question buggin me is, will Cossacks II be better than Imperial glory? it surely has the potential, I don't mind 2D graphics... ------------- |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 15:31
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Other. Eurasia: Total War From the Huns to the Mongols, and everything inbetween.
Didn't stop them from doing Shogun, hell, if its going to be 'Asian', its garenteed to be China+Japan, American market and all. -------------  Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 16:01
 very funny Temujin
Well Shogun was their first project and i think they only expected to sell 250,000 units.Ofcourse it went big. Now the game is much bigger with alot of money invested in it.China is currently infested with piracy. Eurasia is a great idea though, but trade would seem limited. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 16:38
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Aztec: Total War (or Mesoamerica: Total War, but that sounds odd) Would be cool not to kill enemies, but take them prisoner. Napoleonic/Imperial sounds cool too ------------- |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 16:41
It would be limited to areas with direct naval contact, Med, Baltic (maybe the Western Fringe of Europe will be cut off, no need for it to be too big), Red Sea, Peraian Gulf, etc. Overland would depend on someone creating stable overland routes. ------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 16-Nov-2004 at 16:42
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whaaa? did you ever heard aboutt he Silk road? i mean coem on, the silk road was the largest trade going on ebfore the discovery of America, and they onlc foudn america becasue they were looking for a sea conection sicne the ottomans blocked the silk road. so trade is the least argument. ------------- |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 16-Nov-2004 at 17:46
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Quite, though one would have to be in control of the lanf area of the
silk road, and the other main routes (though passes in the Himalayas or
whatever), in order to make the most cash out of it.
------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 05:47
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who would most of the trade exactly be between on the Silk Road?
How would trade be done in a hypthetical Warring States theme? |
Posted By: babyblue
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 06:26
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warring states i voted...dun want another three kingdom game...there's already tonnes out there. napoleonic would be nice but i'll probably go dizzy from looking at all those colouful uniforms that they used to wear. ------------- 
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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 12:13
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prior to the Mognol conquest, there was almost no trade anymore on the silk road, so the point would be to conquer most parts of it in order to establish trade between china and the middle east. ------------- |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2004 at 13:33
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Cywr's Eurasia is Huns to Mongols.
Would have to take the reigns of the Tang. Agree with baby, 3Kingdoms,barf! |
Posted By: J.M.Finegold
Date Posted: 12-Dec-2004 at 01:36
I would have an orgasm if they came out with a WWII: Total War... but
that would require Pentium 239029s and 2940389493 gigabytes of
harddrive, so not coming soon.
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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 12-Dec-2004 at 19:11
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Dux, sounds like you will like the upcoming 'Wartime Command' set for release next year.
It's not a TW but i would not be surprised if it is a fantastic game or much better than a CA game. Am very familiar with the dev team on this and they are topclass. http://www.codemasters.co.uk/wartimecommand/about-game/ - http://www.codemasters.co.uk/wartimecommand/about-game/ ----------------- Work has just begun on NTW2. 
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Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 19:27
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there is already a pretty good mod for napoleonic total war, so i don't know if it would be worth making a new one (although i suppose they could make it better, since it does still use the basic medieval total war engine) ------------- |
Posted By: J.M.Finegold
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 19:51
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The pics in Catt's sig are from the Nap mod aren't they? And yes,
that game looks great! Thank's for letting know about it.
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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 22:10
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Murph, NTW is a modification to Medieval. These screens are of work for Rome Total War in its infancy. It is going to be in a completely different engine but made by the same folks, The Lordz.
difference here: http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/Lordz27/ntwbatpic9.jpg - http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/Lordz27/ntwbatpic9.j pg |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 22:17
So there will be a nappy mod for RTW too? I'll finaly get to play it ------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 22:30
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You know what, I"d like to see a TOtal war Asia during the Tang Dynasty....fat chance though.
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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 22:33
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That would be in my Eurasian total war.
------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 22:39
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Hmmm as long as it includes Tang, Yamato, Shilla, Baekje, and Koguryo I"m all for it.
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Posted By: J.M.Finegold
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 22:55
That would be pretty awsome.
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Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 23:01
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You know what would be interesting? Total War: world...
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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 23:11
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To awkward without major changes to the layout we are familiar with, i mean, how do you deal with a round globe?
------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: J.M.Finegold
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 23:30
You could make it a flat map. ------------- |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 23:47
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And allow travel from say Alaska to Kamchatka, off the edge of the map
(assuming international date line is used as the divider)?
------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: J.M.Finegold
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 23:50
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Hmmm, I guess... have it so that going from Kamchatka to Alaska goes
through a loading period where the army (assuming this is RTW style) is
dragged to, say an arrow that points to the general direction of Alaska
(and it can say Alaska when the mouse is over it) and the army is
tranferred (through the loading period) from Kamchatka to
Alaska.... Dunno if that would be possible or not. ------------- |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 02:01
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India:Total war would be the best and most unique. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 02:10
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India:TotalWar? That'll sell like hotcakes!
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Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 20:57
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looks pretty similar, but i'm assuming that the game interface will be changed to the rome total war interface ------------- |
Posted By: Kids
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 22:54
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I doubt a game based on Warring State would be possible due to the
limitation of our knowledge in the equipments (based largely in Qin's
soldiers) and siege weapons (only literal records, but no hard
evidences). There was a Taiwanese company tried once in Warring State setting, but it turned out very poor. Anyway, I believe next Total War would be in Napoleon age, but I wish they would include some Oriental elements into next project. |
Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 22:59
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Napolean + Oriental...sounds interesting...they could make it work...maybe...
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Posted By: J.M.Finegold
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 23:04
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I think they should make a Total War: Prehistory... it would die in
about two weeks - but those two weeks would be intense periods of rock
throwing combat and heavy clubbing. Hey...at least I would buy it. ------------- |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 00:16
| Heavy,heavy rumours going around that the next intallment is Medieval Total War 2. |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 01:47
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Hmm, i guess its a safe bet, as a big chunk of the initial MTW fan base would buy it. Hopefully will bring in the money to do something diffferent afterwards, unless they are bought by some big no-imagination having game giant like EA, in that case expect MTW III, then IV and so on. ------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 04:09
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"a big chunk of the initial MTW fan base would buy it."
oi, a sure winner. There is a Medieval mod in the works also. Those boys deep tapped the game without the help of tools,made CA tip their hat. Not sure but i think some modders might be working on animations. I saw an interview with the president of CA earlier this year and from it i gathered that after the next(4th) it was going to move in a diferent direction from war, but who knows. If EA get it, its all over. |
Posted By: Kids
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 14:57
| I wonder why no Oriental game makers try to make a good RTS game, considering the popularity of RTS in East Asia (Star Craft, AOK, etc....) |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 16:30
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IIRC, a Korean company does.
------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 16:41
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mmmh, then I hope for Chinggis Qaan: Total War or maybe Renaissance: Total war. ------------- |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 16:47
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with special Trample the Caliph! minigames! extra points if you can do it to the pope too! ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Christscrusader
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 19:58
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go Medevil total war: Greece ------------- Heaven helps those, who help themselves. -Jc |
Posted By: ChineseManchurian
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 19:59
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I prefer Chinese three Kingdom
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Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 20:01
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For me a dream would Be Total War: The Korean 3 kingdoms
period...psh...like I'm ever going to see that...so for Now I"m
endorsing Total War: Eurasia.
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Posted By: Kids
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 20:50
Oh? whats the name? is it as good as American/British RTS??? |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 21:03
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No idea. There are a few good game companies in Korea, that are only just starting to break out of the East Asian market and make inroads elsewhere. Try a google search or something, i'm no expert as the typical Blizzard style RTS isn't really my thing, and much of RTS falls under that umbrella. ------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: Belisarius
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 08:59
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Though it's a fat chance in hell, I'd very much enjoy a Fantasy: Total War. You understand, fantasty units like elves, giants, ogres, etc. However, as this is not going to happen, Medieval: Total War 2 would be nice as well. |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 16:32
there is a Middle Earth mod in the works.
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Posted By: Roughneck
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2004 at 01:36
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You mean there's a Medieval Mod in the works for RTW? Awesome! I'd like to see MTW2 or a Napoleonic version. ------------- |
Posted By: Scythian
Date Posted: 26-Dec-2004 at 14:32
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Whoever said 'Silk Road' as the center of the campaigns is a genius. Finally, we'd see the marvellous cities of Central Asia etc. The map could encompass everything from Japan and Korea to Portugal, with northern parts of Egypt, Arabia, India and IndoChina. I'd put even more emphasis on realism and RPG elements, to make a game where you'd have no chance of conquering things too fast. I'd also add more things than just cities and military object/wonders... We need more things to emphasize that the gameplay is a history making course, so, there should be info on religion ( like in MTW ), then the language spoken, and the culture practised by the inhabitants of various cities of your empire. The most annoying part of the MTW series are the rebellions. The NEED to handle them in a different way. It must be a juicy piece of gaming, not a chore... Perhaps an option on funding the town militias in your cities should be introduced. So, you don't need to actually station an army in your city... the crowd-controlling militia should be a separate option like the agents are. That would make an interesting feature because you'd have to balance funding for preventing rebellions with expenditures for everything else ( there should be an easy-to-use option where you balance your expenditures ). Then, there should be cultural balancing that make it harder to conquest large teritories. I mean, in the sense of Chinese people being less 'expansionist', while the Frankish Empire would be mega-expansionist. So, as a ruler of China, you can introduce a new religion to make your population more warlike ( but you have to wait for generations for the religion to expand ) etc. etc. All that wouldn't complicate things too much, it should all be done with a simple interface and behind-the-scenes working. I'm just in favour of more flexibility in customizing your faction, and greater differences between the culture of the factions. For example, imagine having a warrior culture like the Alans, and then expanding vastly, and then choosing to alter your culture to fit the situation more. Then, you build something, and use the option to set your population to be more production oriented ( artisans, peasants ). Just my 2c ------------- |
Posted By: intem
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2005 at 01:56
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i would definetly prefer Han dynasty total war with all those rumors of those people who want a conflict between han and the romans, i reckon the Han armies would have better artillery and calvary and more discipline as well as technological advancement, on the other hand of the romans it would be standards in everything. I would like to see how those old chosuns gettin beatin badly by the han armies. ------------- J.T.I.J |
Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2005 at 03:08
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I would give like a million bucks for World: Total War, the map would spam over the whole world, Asia, Australia, Europe, you would be given the ability to create cities on lands, there would be 1205 factions and there would be 5000000 different units.....
And for the most important thing... for winning the campaign you should have to conquer the whole world.. the factions would go in manners as there are South-American, North-American, Asian, European, African, Australian and Oceanian divisions that would split into hundreds of subdivisions and they would split into factions.... and i would want to see a preson completeing that game with EVERY civilization in few weeks. And the map would be around 1000's and would go up to 1765.
WE WANT A TW LIKE THAT!!!!!!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Emperor Barbarossa
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2005 at 07:53
I would like a Total War like that Rider. Think of it, basically world history all in an awesome video game.
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Posted By: The Canadian Guy
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2005 at 11:26
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Other: Americas Total War I agree with anyone that put anything with the Americas. ------------- Hate and anger is the fuel of war, while religion and politics is the foundation of it. |
Posted By: SulcataIxlude
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2005 at 03:19
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Indonesia total war would be fun.
------------- http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=dalesan |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2005 at 04:21
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Looking back at the thread, i still want my Eurasian: Total War to come
to fruit, but i think if its going to be regional, then Tobo has it
right, sod Europe and China, India is what we need.
------------- Arrrgh!!"
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Posted By: Belisarius
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 12:20
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The Late Antiquity period from the fall of the classical Roman Empire
to the Islamic conquests would be interesting. It would be the next
logical step after Barbarian Invasion and could serve as a bridge to
MTW, albeit missing a couple of centuries.
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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 11-Sep-2005 at 18:32
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Yes indeed, obviously all of Eurasia or even the world would be best, but region wise we need India so bad. Theres already legions of strategy games for Europe and the Middle East, andlegions of bad console-ish games for China were people have long purple hair and other BS, but India, one of Earths greatest culture groups, is neglected. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Americanus
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 13:29
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I would like to see a rome total war game with guns but I wonder what we would use as calvary. ------------- "Give Me Liberty or Give me death" |
Posted By: Lilleman
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 15:57
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I would like to se some asian Total War, taking place between Song and Ming, or Song and Yuan. That's the Total War game I have been waiting for. If Creative Assembly will make yet another (european/arab) medieval game or greek/roman/egypt strategy game (or some Napoleon or WWII game...), well then I'm gonna stop playing their games. Something new please! South America, NE Asia, SE Asia... would be fun. |
Posted By: sinosword
Date Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 22:40
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what about warcraft version. -------------  
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Posted By: Dream208
Date Posted: 19-Feb-2006 at 01:17
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Since there were so many Han VS Rome thread... I suggest we designed The Total War: 100 AD ! |
Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 21-Feb-2006 at 21:07
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1914: Total War Very easy to implement! ------------- AAAAAAAAAA "The crisis of yesterday is the joke of tomorrow.� ~ HG Wells |