3 questions for Turks
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Topic: 3 questions for Turks
Posted By: Ellinas
Subject: 3 questions for Turks
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 15:59
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I would like to ask the Turks of the forum some things. 1. What is the exact meaning of the word "yeni"? 2. What is the exact difference between the words "Yunnan" and "Rum". I believe you used to call Yunnan the Greeks and Rum the Orthodox Christians of the Ottoman Empire - however today you call Rum the Greeks of Turkey. Am I right? 3. What is nearly the cost of a nargele? Thanks.
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Posted By: merced12
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 16:26
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a)yeni means `new` b)yes you are right.and live in cyprus we call rum c)nargele???is it nargile???
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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 16:46
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Don't smoke nargile...One of it equals to 30 cigarettes....
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Posted By: o_irengun
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 16:52
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1-yeni means new 2-yunan is the citizen of greece and rum is the word for greek nation 3what kind of nargile you ca find a nargile for 10 euro or 1000 euro ------------- Mükremin Basaran ;Ümit Balkan ;Cihan Bayik ;Murat Tutal ;Adem Öglü ;Fatih Erer killed 5 April 2006 We are never going to forget you!!! |
Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 17:04
So,if i smoke 30 cigarettes and one nargile per day,then i will have cancer in a few years?Guaranteed? ------------- "There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. " --- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996) |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2006 at 18:22
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Posted By: Kilikya
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 06:16
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The word Rum refers to Romans which were another name for the Byzantines (eastern Roman Empire), who are Greek (yunanlý).
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Posted By: Kilikya
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 06:19
| Rum refers to the Romans, not the greeks, but by the time the Turks showed up the roman empire was gone, all that was left was the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzans), thus were also called Rums. |
Posted By: Kilikya
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 06:20
| shall I write it again? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 06:49
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Dear Friend Elinas, A nice hello from Ankara. All my Forum Friends gave you good information. I want to conturbute extra knowledge. 1- Yeni = New OK! Yeni is well known in Greece e.g. Yenice (Yesenice) which means "nearly new" is a place in Greece fomous with its tabacco. There is another Yenice in Greece. "Mora Yenicesi" the Morean Yenice in Peleponnes. In Teselya there is a city called "Yenischehir" the new city. Yeni Raki, Yeniceri the Janischary the ottoman soldier, the New Soldier 2-Rum = The Araps under Muhammed got contact with the Romans. In arabic letters they don't use the word "o" they prefer to write "u" So that the Araps called the Romans as "Rumans" In Holy Book Kor'an there is a suura called "Rum" which means "Rom/Rome" Therefore Turks accepted same definition for Romans. As they came to Anatolia im 1071 Turks fought with East Roman Empire. They called their enemy as "Rum" According to Turks Anatolia was a land of Rum. We called Anatolia "Diyar-i iklim-i Rum" After the conquest of Anatolia by Turks the Turkish Sultan got the name "Sultan-i iklim-i Rum" (Sultan of Rum/Rome country.) The famous Philosopher Mevlana, the grunder of Whirling Derwisches is called "Mevlana Celaleddin-i Rumi" (The beautiful person of Religion from Anatolia" Therefore Turks called the remaining citizens of Bizanz Empire as "Rum". The word leter used for all greek citizens. Armenians or Jews were never Rum. Only Greeks were Rum. After the declaration of the Free Greek State. We called them "Yunan" To day we call all greek origine people who are not Greek citizen as "Rum" e.g Rums of USA, Cyprus. Plese tell my good wishes to all Greek citizens of my fatherland " Sofular" a town of Kozana/Kozani. They all imigrated from Anatolia. ------------- |
Posted By: Ellinas
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 16:18
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Thanks to all for your replies. Jakatai Khan, nargile is not that dangerous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah#Style_and_health - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah#Style_and_health |
Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 16:25
realy? so I can return my nargile back.
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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 18:52
"not that dangerous" but still "dangerous" ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 12-Apr-2006 at 18:20
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best thing invented by muslims have u tried the apple flavor?? its awesome ------------- |
Posted By: akritas
Date Posted: 12-Apr-2006 at 18:38
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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 10:05
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ive got, but rarly use an argeli (where did that n come from?) apple is the best, rose ho hum |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 18:31
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I like tombeki (non-aromatic hard tobacco) but of course rarely. If aromatic, I would prefer rose... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 13-Apr-2006 at 23:41
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u guys should definitely try milk + capuccino falvor.... its like sooo nice just use milk instead of water and cappucino flavor for the tobacco ------------- |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 01:03
you serous? i doubt i can find that flavour down at the nearest lebanese shop. |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 06:23
i like every kind of nargile after good food, if my stomach is full a Turkish coffee with nargile 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 16:43
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Yeni = new. "Yunan" means Greeks. /Comes from one of the the Greek regions / "Rum" is an Otoman word and means the christian population of the Otoman Empire, not the Grekks only. "Rum-milliet", or "Rum-nation" /i.e."Roman nation"/. It comes from the word "Roman" /that was the odfficial name of the Bizantian empire, conquered by the Turks/. After that name, the whole Balkan aerea of the European part of the Otoman Empire has been callaed "Rumeli beiler beIlak" /I might be wrong in the spelling/.
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 21:05
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BG100 Rumeli beiler beilak should be "Rumeli Beylerbeyi".
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Posted By: BG100
Date Posted: 16-Apr-2006 at 03:58
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Thanks! I knew only the Bulgarian transcrition. |
Posted By: OSMANLI
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2006 at 13:46
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Rum can have so many diffrent, yet similar meanings. Originally it literally meant Roman, although was used loosly to represent Christions or those of the west. The Turk adopted this word into their language as well for the same meaning. However the modern day meaning is usually in reference to Greeks in Turkish land or Greeks in S.Cyprus. -------------  
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