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madame de plume
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Topic: Early 19th Century Funerals Posted: 28-May-2014 at 13:23 |
Hello all. I'm new to the forum and I have a question.
I am a writer, currently working on a manuscript set in England and France during the Napoleonic Wars. I have been attempting to find information regarding the differences in funeral ceremonies between the two countries but I am finding very little on the topic.
If anyone has any input or knows of any good resources I would be extremely grateful.
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Posted: 29-May-2014 at 08:59 |
You might try looking into funerary practices in their respective colonies. I know that certain customs were carried over to the Americas. There is probably more in common folklore as well. Also, you might try a site set up by one of the Morticians Associations.
In NJ, an early custom was festooning a casket with handblown green glass Calla lily leaves. It's not found anywhere else in the colonies.
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Posted: 29-May-2014 at 12:55 |
That's a great idea Red Clay. The the handblown glass custom is really interesting. Thank you for your input!
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Posted: 30-May-2014 at 10:23 |
No one knows the origins of the glass leaf custom. However, it arose in the late 18th early 19th cents. in one of the many glass making towns.
The leaves became a popular "end of day" piece in the Glass Houses. As many of the early skilled glass blowers came from Europe, it's been assumed the custom came from there and was a "replacement" for a natural leaf not available here.
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Posted: 03-Jun-2014 at 17:25 |
http://www.nps.gov/nr/publications/bulletins/nrb41/nrb41_5.htm
http://prezi.com/gfgvuft1eemj/deaths-and-funerals-in-colonial-america/
http://thefuneralsource.org/hi0301.html
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/historyonline/usdeath.cfm
http://www.kellscraft.com/CustomsFashionsNewEngland/CustomsFashionsNewEnglandCh15.html
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=burial+customs+in+coloniual+&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_enUS579US579&q=burial+customs+in+colonial+america+&gs_l=hp..0.0i22i30.0.0.0.15138...........0._7nYVOvw_Ag&gws_rd=ssl
If u want more then google or go to a college library history site for specifics in a specific region.
If you want info on post 1805 expansion..see the memoirs of mountain men-fur trappers-explorers and soldiers. Natives are unique to them and you will have to find appropriate websites. Usually through the tribe website or Universities.
If you want the Llano. Forget it. The bones is long gone. probably got picked up with the buffaloes and sold circa 1875+.
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Posted: 13-Nov-2014 at 22:19 |
If more is required on the military version then some additional notes are to be added:
a. Most burial customs of and for soldiers usually occurred on the battlefield..whether victor or loser. Ceremonies varied but generally they were short and to the point. Varying biographies will tell you that it was conducted by the Commander of designated rep and with or without a Book of Common prayer or Bible. Although Chaplains have served since 1775.
See: http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1030/p25s02-usmi.html
B. However if at a 'post ceremony' the custom was for a burial detail and honor guard as determined by the command and either a local minister or member of the command offering prayers..etc.. if no Chaplain was assigned.
C. The Army Chaplain school was not officially established until 1918.
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