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Al Jassas
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Topic: Umayyids - Iranian Arabs? Posted: 05-Apr-2009 at 18:02 |
Hello to you all
About the stone above, this doesn't prove anything. The official language of the Ummayyads in the beginning was Greek and thus most government officials like Ioannes above were christians. Putting a cross doesn't prove that Ummayyads were christians and in any case anyone who thinks this is naive and doesn't know a thing about history.
There are more than enough inscriptions from that time period and before that proves the opposite and one inscription in a provincial town is not a proof. Also the term "Arab" was synonymous with muslims especially with none Arab peoples of the empire. From his name he is obviously a greek not an Arab because if he were an Arab he would have used his Arabic name Yuhanna.
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Posted: 05-Apr-2009 at 21:42 |
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Northman
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Posted: 05-Apr-2009 at 22:07 |
Originally posted by chubin
برای اطلاع از جنگ های ایران و اعراب، قادسیه و نهاوند، نگاه کنید به:
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Hello Chubin
This is an english forum, so please state what you want to say in english.
Also - leaving a couple of link as reference is fine, but should only be used to support your own statements in the post.
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Omar al Hashim
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Posted: 06-Apr-2009 at 05:32 |
Originally posted by Ardashir
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Ardashir, distinguishing between history, propaganda, and fiction is an important skill that you should acquire before posting articles. |
Omar, speaking clearly is an even more important skill YOU should acquire before posting anything. What do you mean by that piece of crap? Which PROPAGANDA are you babbling about? |
I was trying for a more polite way of saying that article is pseudo-historical revisionism that barely conceals a anti-muslim agenda. The article is so far removed from the evidence that it isn't even worth refuting.
Overturning one of the most well documented periods of history just because a cross is in front of a Greek inscription is ludicrious!
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Ardashir
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Posted: 06-Apr-2009 at 09:40 |
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Originally posted by Ardashir
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Ardashir, distinguishing between history, propaganda, and fiction is an important skill that you should acquire before posting articles. |
Omar, speaking clearly is an even more important skill YOU should acquire before posting anything. What do you mean by that piece of crap? Which PROPAGANDA are you babbling about? |
I was trying for a more polite way of saying that article is pseudo-historical revisionism that barely conceals a anti-muslim agenda. The article is so far removed from the evidence that it isn't even worth refuting.
Overturning one of the most well documented periods of history just because a cross is in front of a Greek inscription is ludicrious! |
The problem is that you think it's biased against the Muslims or Arabs. It is simply not. It seems that I should translate the rest of the articles into English.
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 06-Apr-2009 at 10:58 |
I agree with Al Jassas, the author of the inscription is a Greek, not an Arab, Umar started to count the years in 639 AD, in the same year that he conquered Syria completely and appointed Mu'awiyah as governor of Damascus, so it says 24th year of Arab rule in that region.
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Ardashir
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Posted: 06-Apr-2009 at 19:03 |
Originally posted by Ardashir
42nd year, not 24th year |
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